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    wrote on 16 Feb 2014, 03:32 last edited by
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    [quote author="onek24" date="1392420514"]Hey all,

    i'm from the QML Subforum but i thought why don't i try game development, just for fun and to gather some experiences. What i would like to know is:

    • Should i start with OpenGL or DirectX(DX3D)?
    • Are there any good tutorials or introductions to game programming and OpenGL/Dx you guys could and would recommend?

    Every comment is welcome.[/quote]I'd imagine that it depends on what kind of game you want to produce, and what experience you have.

    For simple mobile games, I'd go with QML (e.g. http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-advtutorial.html ) -- one code base that can be compiled for both OpenGL AND DirectX!

    Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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      wrote on 16 Feb 2014, 14:48 last edited by
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      [quote author="JKSH" date="1392521544"]I'd imagine that it depends on what kind of game you want to produce, and what experience you have.

      For simple mobile games, I'd go with QML (e.g. http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-advtutorial.html ) -- one code base that can be compiled for both OpenGL AND DirectX![/quote]

      I would really like to go into 3D Desktop games, until now i have no experience with that.

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        wrote on 16 Feb 2014, 15:07 last edited by
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        [quote author="onek24" date="1392562129"]I would really like to go into 3D Desktop games, until now i have no experience with that.[/quote]I don't have experience either, but I believe using a high-level library like Unity or OGRE would be easier than writing low-level OpenGL/DirectlX code.

        Qt 3D is in the works, but it's not ready yet. Optimistically, there might be a tech preview in Qt 5.3.

        Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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          wrote on 16 Feb 2014, 15:18 last edited by
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          [quote author="JKSH" date="1392563249"]I don't have experience either, but I believe using a high-level library like Unity or OGRE would be easier than writing low-level OpenGL/DirectlX code.

          Qt 3D is in the works, but it's not ready yet. Optimistically, there might be a tech preview in Qt 5.3.[/quote]

          Alright, thank you JKSH.

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            wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 19:35 last edited by
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            [quote author="PiXy79" date="1274950640"]I'm very interested too on developing games for Nokia phones or for the Megoo platform.
            Thanks ![/quote]

            I wouldn't bet my future on that, but I've may have missed the irony... ;-)

            "A computer is like a bicycle for the mind..."
            <i>Steve Jobs</i>

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              wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 19:35 last edited by
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              [quote author="PiXy79" date="1274950640"]I'm very interested too on developing games for Nokia phones or for the Megoo platform.
              Thanks ![/quote]

              I wouldn't bet my future on that, but I've may have missed the irony... ;-)

              "A computer is like a bicycle for the mind..."
              <i>Steve Jobs</i>

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                wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 20:05 last edited by
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                Qt Game development!

                All people here have to say is that it's great with this new forum...
                I thought I'd bring it one step longer then "hello group!".

                Qt for games on mobile devices? Desktops? Consoles?

                Qt is a joy to work with and thanks to QML and QML/3d and I guess it could be a good framework for game development.
                I still think you would need to use OpenGL support if you want hardware acceleration that handles graphics/3d intensive programs.

                If Qt is thinking about over-encapsulating this into some quasi game framework using QtQuick when "QGLWidget":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qglwidget.html would give you an excellent OpenGL context to work in, I don't know.

                If no draw calls from other threads than the main thread is possible, this will not work well...

                There is already a Game Framework based on Qt 4.8 called "V-Play":http://v-play.net/

                I've tried it out as a demo, but it didn't impress me all that much.

                So I really hope that Qt's focus on Game Develop will bear fruits!

                Signals and slots for gamedev == cool, so the best of luck!

                Chris

                "A computer is like a bicycle for the mind..."
                <i>Steve Jobs</i>

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                  wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 20:05 last edited by
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                  Qt Game development!

                  All people here have to say is that it's great with this new forum...
                  I thought I'd bring it one step longer then "hello group!".

                  Qt for games on mobile devices? Desktops? Consoles?

                  Qt is a joy to work with and thanks to QML and QML/3d and I guess it could be a good framework for game development.
                  I still think you would need to use OpenGL support if you want hardware acceleration that handles graphics/3d intensive programs.

                  If Qt is thinking about over-encapsulating this into some quasi game framework using QtQuick when "QGLWidget":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qglwidget.html would give you an excellent OpenGL context to work in, I don't know.

                  If no draw calls from other threads than the main thread is possible, this will not work well...

                  There is already a Game Framework based on Qt 4.8 called "V-Play":http://v-play.net/

                  I've tried it out as a demo, but it didn't impress me all that much.

                  So I really hope that Qt's focus on Game Develop will bear fruits!

                  Signals and slots for gamedev == cool, so the best of luck!

                  Chris

                  "A computer is like a bicycle for the mind..."
                  <i>Steve Jobs</i>

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                    wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 20:17 last edited by
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                    [quote author="onek24" date="1392420514"]Hey all,

                    i'm from the QML Subforum but i thought why don't i try game development, just for fun and to gather some experiences. What i would like to know is:

                    • Should i start with OpenGL or DirectX(DX3D)?
                    • Are there any good tutorials or introductions to game programming and OpenGL/Dx you guys could and would recommend?

                    Every comment is welcome.[/quote]

                    I would definitely learn as much as possible about OpenGL (for the Desktop / Console market) and OpenGL ES for mobile.

                    But Qt has an excellent solution which makes working with OpenGL a lot simpler:
                    The QGLWidget class is a widget for rendering OpenGL graphics.

                    Read all about it: "QGLWidget docs":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qglwidget.html#details.

                    You could also take a look at a Game Engine / Framework that uses Qt 4.8 here: "V-Play":http://v-play.net/.

                    "A computer is like a bicycle for the mind..."
                    <i>Steve Jobs</i>

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                      wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 20:17 last edited by
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                      [quote author="onek24" date="1392420514"]Hey all,

                      i'm from the QML Subforum but i thought why don't i try game development, just for fun and to gather some experiences. What i would like to know is:

                      • Should i start with OpenGL or DirectX(DX3D)?
                      • Are there any good tutorials or introductions to game programming and OpenGL/Dx you guys could and would recommend?

                      Every comment is welcome.[/quote]

                      I would definitely learn as much as possible about OpenGL (for the Desktop / Console market) and OpenGL ES for mobile.

                      But Qt has an excellent solution which makes working with OpenGL a lot simpler:
                      The QGLWidget class is a widget for rendering OpenGL graphics.

                      Read all about it: "QGLWidget docs":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qglwidget.html#details.

                      You could also take a look at a Game Engine / Framework that uses Qt 4.8 here: "V-Play":http://v-play.net/.

                      "A computer is like a bicycle for the mind..."
                      <i>Steve Jobs</i>

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                        wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 23:46 last edited by
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                        Hi,

                        [quote author="cseder" date="1423513071"]But Qt has an excellent solution which makes working with OpenGL a lot simpler:
                        The QGLWidget class is a widget for rendering OpenGL graphics.

                        Read all about it: "QGLWidget docs":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qglwidget.html#details.[/quote]QGLWidget is deprecated. Use "QOpenGLWidget":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qopenglwidget.html instead.

                        Also check out "VoltAir":http://blog.qt.io/blog/2014/07/21/google-labs-voltair-game-built-with-qt/ -- it is a game that Google built on top of Qt Quick.

                        Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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                          wrote on 9 Feb 2015, 23:46 last edited by
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                          Hi,

                          [quote author="cseder" date="1423513071"]But Qt has an excellent solution which makes working with OpenGL a lot simpler:
                          The QGLWidget class is a widget for rendering OpenGL graphics.

                          Read all about it: "QGLWidget docs":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qglwidget.html#details.[/quote]QGLWidget is deprecated. Use "QOpenGLWidget":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qopenglwidget.html instead.

                          Also check out "VoltAir":http://blog.qt.io/blog/2014/07/21/google-labs-voltair-game-built-with-qt/ -- it is a game that Google built on top of Qt Quick.

                          Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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                            9 Feb 2015, 23:46

                            Hi,

                            [quote author="cseder" date="1423513071"]But Qt has an excellent solution which makes working with OpenGL a lot simpler:
                            The QGLWidget class is a widget for rendering OpenGL graphics.

                            Read all about it: "QGLWidget docs":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qglwidget.html#details.[/quote]QGLWidget is deprecated. Use "QOpenGLWidget":http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qopenglwidget.html instead.

                            Also check out "VoltAir":http://blog.qt.io/blog/2014/07/21/google-labs-voltair-game-built-with-qt/ -- it is a game that Google built on top of Qt Quick.

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