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  • fcarneyF fcarney

    @aha_1980
    Apparently the standard allows for it:
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/704466/why-doesnt-delete-set-the-pointer-to-null

    The creator himself wonders why it isn't so. Its like C++ is this beautiful, amazing, and now, WILD animal roaming free in cyberspace... Yeah, maybe the analogy isn't all that great, but it does conjure up a cool picture.

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    Kent-Dorfman
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    #39

    @fcarney said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

    Apparently the standard allows for it:
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/704466/why-doesnt-delete-set-the-pointer-to-null
    The creator himself wonders why it isn't so. Its like C++ is this beautiful, amazing, and now, WILD animal roaming free in cyberspace... Yeah, maybe the analogy isn't all that great, but it does conjure up a cool picture.

    Jumping back a few months on this one, but I think the decision to leave alone the pointer value upon an object delete is solid. If I understand the standard properly, the target of a delete can be an lvalue or and rvalue. So delete 0x34fc3d2200 should be a valid operation, right? How ya gonna change the value of an rvalue (in a traditional sense)?

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    • Chris KawaC Online
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      Chris Kawa
      Lifetime Qt Champion
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      #40

      Imagine clearing some sort of array:

      for(type* ptr = some_array; something ; ++ptr)
      {
           delete ptr;
      }
      

      Now imagine delete would zero that pointer. Do you see the problem? You would have to make another, temporary, pointer just so you zero the copy and your original doesn't get changed. In other words you're paying for what you don't use or even want. There's also problem of const pointers or pointers that you got from external APIs that do their own bookkeeping and might actually need that pointer value even after delete. It would create more problems than it solves.

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        #41
                int 🥩=1;
                int 🧀=1;
                int 🥬=1;
                int 🍞=1;
                int 🍅=1;
                int 🥪=🥩+🥬+🍅+🧀+🥩;
                cout << 🥪 << endl;
        

        Fails to compile in C++17...

        C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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        • Kent-DorfmanK Offline
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          Kent-Dorfman
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          #42

          @fcarney said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

              int 🥩=1;
              int 🧀=1;
              int 🥬=1;
              int 🍞=1;
              int 🍅=1;
              int 🥪=🥩+🥬+🍅+🧀+🥩;
              cout << 🥪 << endl;
          

          Fails to compile in C++17...

          What's this "int" stuff? Doesn't the 17 standard deduce the type based on the rvalue? Not that I think that is necessarily a good thing though.

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          • Kent-DorfmanK Kent-Dorfman

            @fcarney said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                int 🥩=1;
                int 🧀=1;
                int 🥬=1;
                int 🍞=1;
                int 🍅=1;
                int 🥪=🥩+🥬+🍅+🧀+🥩;
                cout << 🥪 << endl;
            

            Fails to compile in C++17...

            What's this "int" stuff? Doesn't the 17 standard deduce the type based on the rvalue? Not that I think that is necessarily a good thing though.

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            #43

            @kent-dorfman said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

            🍞

            The real problem is this variable is unused.

            C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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            • Kent-DorfmanK Offline
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              Kent-Dorfman
              wrote on last edited by
              #44

              @fcarney said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

              The real problem is this variable is unused.

              So in 17 unused variables are errors instead of warnings?

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                wrote on last edited by
                #45

                @kent-dorfman said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                So in 17 unused variables are errors instead of warnings?

                No, its just a bug in the code for a samich.

                C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                  Kent-Dorfman
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #46

                  @fcarney said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                  No, its just a bug in the code for a samich.

                  Samich... Are you a yinzer?

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                    fcarney
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #47

                    @kent-dorfman said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                    Are you a yinzer?

                    Had to look it up. Based on what I read, no. Not sure where I heard sandwich being called samich though. I am in western USA.

                    C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                    • Chris KawaC Online
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                      Chris Kawa
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                      #48

                      Being an a-hole as a recruiter:

                      What does o() mean?
                      What does o.o mean?
                      What does o->o mean?
                      What does o-->o mean?
                      What does o()--<=>--o() mean? Fun fact - crashes MSVC (yes, the compiler, not the compiled program)
                      What does [](){;o()++<=>++o();}() mean?

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                      • Chris KawaC Chris Kawa

                        I had to dig through this thing once, only the real code was like a hundred times longer and more convoluted.

                        // Library.h statically linked to and included in DLL and EXE
                        struct SomeType
                        {
                           int typeId();
                        };
                        Q_DECLARE_METATYPE(SomeType);
                        
                        // Library.cpp
                        int SomeType::typeId()
                        {
                            return qMetaTypeId<SomeType>();
                        }
                        
                        // main app
                        SomeType& var1 = getItFromDLL();
                        SomeType& var2 = getItFromEXE();
                        
                        bool same = var1.typeId() == var2.typeId(); // nope
                        

                        Pretty ugly thing to debug, especially since once in blue moon it actually works :/

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                        #49

                        @chris-kawa said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                        I had to dig through this thing once, only the real code was like a hundred times longer and more convoluted.
                        [Snip]
                        Pretty ugly thing to debug, especially since once in blue moon it actually works :/

                        Indeed. Although, this is windows specific. It works correctly on Linux as the symbol resolution happens at run time.

                        Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                        • Chris KawaC Chris Kawa

                          Being an a-hole as a recruiter:

                          What does o() mean?
                          What does o.o mean?
                          What does o->o mean?
                          What does o-->o mean?
                          What does o()--<=>--o() mean? Fun fact - crashes MSVC (yes, the compiler, not the compiled program)
                          What does [](){;o()++<=>++o();}() mean?

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                          J.Hilk
                          Moderators
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #50

                          @chris-kawa wow, some of those you don't encounter every day...


                          Be aware of the Qt Code of Conduct, when posting : https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct


                          Q: What's that?
                          A: It's blue light.
                          Q: What does it do?
                          A: It turns blue.

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                          • Chris KawaC Online
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                            #51

                            Yeah, it was a bit out of topic. Here's one anti-pattern I encounter something like 9/10 code reviews:

                            auto widget = new SomeWidget(some_widget);
                            auto layout = new SomeLayout(some_other_widget);
                            layout->addWidget(widget);
                            

                            It's not a correctness bug. It's a subtle performance one. Compare this with:

                            auto widget = new SomeWidget();
                            auto layout = new SomeLayout();
                            layout->addWidget(widget);
                            some_other_widget->setLayout(layout);
                            

                            If you don't see it - count how many times parents need to be changed and imagine there's not one but, say, 50 widgets and layouts.
                            For extra sweetness do the same when the parent widget is visible - how many times layouts need to be recalculated?

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                            • Chris KawaC Chris Kawa

                              Yeah, it was a bit out of topic. Here's one anti-pattern I encounter something like 9/10 code reviews:

                              auto widget = new SomeWidget(some_widget);
                              auto layout = new SomeLayout(some_other_widget);
                              layout->addWidget(widget);
                              

                              It's not a correctness bug. It's a subtle performance one. Compare this with:

                              auto widget = new SomeWidget();
                              auto layout = new SomeLayout();
                              layout->addWidget(widget);
                              some_other_widget->setLayout(layout);
                              

                              If you don't see it - count how many times parents need to be changed and imagine there's not one but, say, 50 widgets and layouts.
                              For extra sweetness do the same when the parent widget is visible - how many times layouts need to be recalculated?

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                              jsulm
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                              #52

                              @chris-kawa said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                              auto widget = new SomeWidget(widget);

                              I hope this is a typo :-)

                              https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                              • jsulmJ jsulm

                                @chris-kawa said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                                auto widget = new SomeWidget(widget);

                                I hope this is a typo :-)

                                Chris KawaC Online
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                                Chris Kawa
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #53

                                @jsulm Sure, sorry, fixed :)

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                                • Kent-DorfmanK Offline
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #54

                                  @chris-kawa said in Recurring C++ and Qt anti-patterns:

                                  It's not a correctness bug. It's a subtle performance one. Compare this with:

                                  It took me a few minutes but ok, I'm convinced... LOL

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                                    fcarney
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #55
                                    mtime.toString(tr("M/d/yyyy hh:mm AP"));
                                    

                                    C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                                    • fcarneyF fcarney
                                      mtime.toString(tr("M/d/yyyy hh:mm AP"));
                                      
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                                      aha_1980
                                      Lifetime Qt Champion
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #56

                                      Hi @fcarney,

                                      mtime.toString(tr("M/d/yyyy hh:mm AP"));

                                      OMG. Yeah, that's a good (bad) one :)

                                      Qt has to stay free or it will die.

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                                        #57

                                        Just created this pattern today:

                                        if(condition == somevalue)
                                        somestatement.append(whatever);
                                        

                                        I forgot the indentation so it didn't look like and if statement.
                                        I I know this is really simple and not an error/bad practice. It is more a readability issue.

                                        Going to be more rigorous in the future:

                                        if(condition == somevalue){
                                            somestatement.append(whatever);
                                        }
                                        

                                        C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                                          SGaist
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                                          #58

                                          Well, that one made a big security hole in Apple's authentication code but it was the other way around, several lines under the if without curly brackets.

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                                          Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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