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    Jakob
    wrote on 11 Mar 2016, 13:51 last edited by Jakob
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    I'm trying to ask a question about a crash I'm seeing with a very small code snippet, but somehow the question is blocked, without any explanation as to why.

    Why? Why?

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      mrjj
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      wrote on 11 Mar 2016, 14:15 last edited by mrjj 3 Nov 2016, 14:15
      #2

      if u add code and it looks a certain way, its considered spam :)

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        11 Mar 2016, 14:15

        if u add code and it looks a certain way, its considered spam :)

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        Jakob
        wrote on 11 Mar 2016, 14:54 last edited by
        #3

        @mrjj So what does 'a certain way' mean - can I find the rules somewhere, such that I can format the snippet differently?

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          mrjj
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          wrote on 11 Mar 2016, 15:08 last edited by
          #4

          Hi
          Not seen any info about it.
          I just have tried myself being told it was spam when trying to post code. :)

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            11 Mar 2016, 15:08

            Hi
            Not seen any info about it.
            I just have tried myself being told it was spam when trying to post code. :)

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            Jakob
            wrote on 11 Mar 2016, 15:14 last edited by
            #5

            @mrjj Oke, a bit unfortunate that no more info is available, but fortunately there are code-paste bins all over the Internet!

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              mrjj
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              wrote on 11 Mar 2016, 15:15 last edited by
              #6

              yeah its not mega show stopper
              but kinda surprising when it happens.

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                SGaist
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                wrote on 11 Mar 2016, 22:19 last edited by
                #7

                Hi,

                Do you have small example that reproduces this ?

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                  mrjj
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                  wrote on 12 Mar 2016, 07:29 last edited by
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                  i forgot what it was. Been a while since last time.
                  @kshegunov help at one point, maybe he can remember
                  as he found what part of code that triggered the spam checker.
                  ( I asked him on chat)

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                    12 Mar 2016, 07:29

                    i forgot what it was. Been a while since last time.
                    @kshegunov help at one point, maybe he can remember
                    as he found what part of code that triggered the spam checker.
                    ( I asked him on chat)

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                    wrote on 12 Mar 2016, 09:49 last edited by kshegunov 3 Dec 2016, 09:51
                    #9

                    @mrjj
                    It was Wieland's code and this triggered the spam filter (editing is not checked, so that's a workaround):

                    #include <QDebug>
                    #include <QQuickItem>
                    #include <QQmlContext>
                    

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                      SGaist
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                      wrote on 12 Mar 2016, 21:09 last edited by SGaist 3 Dec 2016, 21:10
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                      So writing includes ?

                      #include <QDebug>
                      #include <QObject>
                      #include <QWidger>
                      

                      Makes it trigger ?
                      [edit: Fixed code after testing SGaist]

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                        SGaist
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                        wrote on 12 Mar 2016, 21:15 last edited by
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                        Ok after a quick test, the includes themselves are innocent. It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags. A simple fix for that is to tell markdown that you are writing C++. Simply add c++ after the three ` when you write a code block and you're good to go.

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                          12 Mar 2016, 21:15

                          Ok after a quick test, the includes themselves are innocent. It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags. A simple fix for that is to tell markdown that you are writing C++. Simply add c++ after the three ` when you write a code block and you're good to go.

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                          wrote on 13 Mar 2016, 00:49 last edited by
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                          @SGaist

                          It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags.

                          Not all headers trigger the anti-spam plugin. In my investigation from the 10-15 includes only this block appeared to be troublesome. If I had to guess, the combination of <, > and the words debug or object are the prime culprit.

                          Kind regards.

                          Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                            12 Mar 2016, 21:15

                            Ok after a quick test, the includes themselves are innocent. It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags. A simple fix for that is to tell markdown that you are writing C++. Simply add c++ after the three ` when you write a code block and you're good to go.

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                            Jakob
                            wrote on 14 Mar 2016, 12:03 last edited by
                            #13

                            @SGaist Hm, I tried that - didn't help

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                              11 Mar 2016, 22:19

                              Hi,

                              Do you have small example that reproduces this ?

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                              Jakob
                              wrote on 14 Mar 2016, 12:04 last edited by
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                              @SGaist It is the exact code snippet that is now in the ubuntu paste bin, for which I posted the link.

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                                11 Mar 2016, 13:51

                                I'm trying to ask a question about a crash I'm seeing with a very small code snippet, but somehow the question is blocked, without any explanation as to why.

                                Why? Why?

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                                Jakob
                                wrote on 14 Mar 2016, 12:17 last edited by Jakob
                                #15

                                I adjusted the title a bit, now that I'm not so frustrated anymore. But in conclusion:

                                Number 1: I think it is a very good idea to have some protection on a forum like this.

                                However: introducing such a thing, without letting any user of the forum know, apparently without even some of the moderators(!!!!) knowing exactly about the details, to me, is a very, very bad idea. To the user it feels they are not taken seriously, and the maintainers of the forum just do whatever they like. That is a very, very uncomforting feeling to get from a forum in the 'Qt-world', where usually a high standard of professionalism is the standard.

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                                  mrjj
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                                  wrote on 14 Mar 2016, 12:25 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Hi
                                  well considering I have posted around 2000 posts and been
                                  hit 2 times, its not overly aggressive if u ask me :)

                                  Also its VERY normal not to tell/make public available how to cheat a filter as it
                                  then stops working very fast.

                                  Also, it has been here all along. At least since I started. My first "SPAM" was
                                  like in my first week.

                                  But I agree. I would be nice to know WHY it triggers on pretty normal code.

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                                    JKSH
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                                    wrote on 4 Apr 2016, 00:24 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Pinging @tekojo -- the false positives with code snippets are still happening :(

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                                      4 Apr 2016, 00:24

                                      Pinging @tekojo -- the false positives with code snippets are still happening :(

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                                      tekojo
                                      wrote on 4 Apr 2016, 06:04 last edited by
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                                      @JKSH
                                      Hmm, I thought it was fixed.
                                      Should be ok now.

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                                        tekojo
                                        wrote on 4 Apr 2016, 06:08 last edited by
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                                        As for why it hits code snippets... I'm not completely sure. My feeling is that it mistakes them for some sort of scripting attack.

                                        To be honest the main type of spam we have had, has mostly been chinese false educational spam and weird korean stuff.

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                                          mariakatosvich
                                          wrote on 14 Jun 2016, 09:44 last edited by mariakatosvich 9 Aug 2020, 13:32
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                                          I find the rules somewhere, such that I can format the snippet differently?I just have tried myself being told it was spam when trying to post code.
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