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  • mrjjM Offline
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    mrjj
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    wrote on last edited by mrjj
    #2

    if u add code and it looks a certain way, its considered spam :)

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    • mrjjM mrjj

      if u add code and it looks a certain way, its considered spam :)

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      Jakob
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      #3

      @mrjj So what does 'a certain way' mean - can I find the rules somewhere, such that I can format the snippet differently?

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        mrjj
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        Hi
        Not seen any info about it.
        I just have tried myself being told it was spam when trying to post code. :)

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        • mrjjM mrjj

          Hi
          Not seen any info about it.
          I just have tried myself being told it was spam when trying to post code. :)

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          Jakob
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          #5

          @mrjj Oke, a bit unfortunate that no more info is available, but fortunately there are code-paste bins all over the Internet!

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            mrjj
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            #6

            yeah its not mega show stopper
            but kinda surprising when it happens.

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            • SGaistS Offline
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              SGaist
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              #7

              Hi,

              Do you have small example that reproduces this ?

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                mrjj
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                i forgot what it was. Been a while since last time.
                @kshegunov help at one point, maybe he can remember
                as he found what part of code that triggered the spam checker.
                ( I asked him on chat)

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                • mrjjM mrjj

                  i forgot what it was. Been a while since last time.
                  @kshegunov help at one point, maybe he can remember
                  as he found what part of code that triggered the spam checker.
                  ( I asked him on chat)

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                  kshegunov
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                  wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                  #9

                  @mrjj
                  It was Wieland's code and this triggered the spam filter (editing is not checked, so that's a workaround):

                  #include <QDebug>
                  #include <QQuickItem>
                  #include <QQmlContext>
                  

                  Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                  • SGaistS Offline
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                    SGaist
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                    wrote on last edited by SGaist
                    #10

                    So writing includes ?

                    #include <QDebug>
                    #include <QObject>
                    #include <QWidger>
                    

                    Makes it trigger ?
                    [edit: Fixed code after testing SGaist]

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                      SGaist
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                      Ok after a quick test, the includes themselves are innocent. It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags. A simple fix for that is to tell markdown that you are writing C++. Simply add c++ after the three ` when you write a code block and you're good to go.

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                      • SGaistS SGaist

                        Ok after a quick test, the includes themselves are innocent. It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags. A simple fix for that is to tell markdown that you are writing C++. Simply add c++ after the three ` when you write a code block and you're good to go.

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                        kshegunov
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        @SGaist

                        It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags.

                        Not all headers trigger the anti-spam plugin. In my investigation from the 10-15 includes only this block appeared to be troublesome. If I had to guess, the combination of <, > and the words debug or object are the prime culprit.

                        Kind regards.

                        Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                        • SGaistS SGaist

                          Ok after a quick test, the includes themselves are innocent. It's the < > signs that triggers the detection. I think they might detected as html tags. A simple fix for that is to tell markdown that you are writing C++. Simply add c++ after the three ` when you write a code block and you're good to go.

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                          @SGaist Hm, I tried that - didn't help

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                          • SGaistS SGaist

                            Hi,

                            Do you have small example that reproduces this ?

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                            @SGaist It is the exact code snippet that is now in the ubuntu paste bin, for which I posted the link.

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                            • J Jakob

                              I'm trying to ask a question about a crash I'm seeing with a very small code snippet, but somehow the question is blocked, without any explanation as to why.

                              Why? Why?

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                              #15

                              I adjusted the title a bit, now that I'm not so frustrated anymore. But in conclusion:

                              Number 1: I think it is a very good idea to have some protection on a forum like this.

                              However: introducing such a thing, without letting any user of the forum know, apparently without even some of the moderators(!!!!) knowing exactly about the details, to me, is a very, very bad idea. To the user it feels they are not taken seriously, and the maintainers of the forum just do whatever they like. That is a very, very uncomforting feeling to get from a forum in the 'Qt-world', where usually a high standard of professionalism is the standard.

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                                mrjj
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                                wrote on last edited by
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                                Hi
                                well considering I have posted around 2000 posts and been
                                hit 2 times, its not overly aggressive if u ask me :)

                                Also its VERY normal not to tell/make public available how to cheat a filter as it
                                then stops working very fast.

                                Also, it has been here all along. At least since I started. My first "SPAM" was
                                like in my first week.

                                But I agree. I would be nice to know WHY it triggers on pretty normal code.

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                                  JKSH
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  Pinging @tekojo -- the false positives with code snippets are still happening :(

                                  Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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                                  • JKSHJ JKSH

                                    Pinging @tekojo -- the false positives with code snippets are still happening :(

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                                    @JKSH
                                    Hmm, I thought it was fixed.
                                    Should be ok now.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      As for why it hits code snippets... I'm not completely sure. My feeling is that it mistakes them for some sort of scripting attack.

                                      To be honest the main type of spam we have had, has mostly been chinese false educational spam and weird korean stuff.

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                                        wrote on last edited by mariakatosvich
                                        #20

                                        I find the rules somewhere, such that I can format the snippet differently?I just have tried myself being told it was spam when trying to post code.
                                        Thanks
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                                        • SGaistS Offline
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                                          SGaist
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          Hi,

                                          I usually append c++ after the opening three back ticks when writing C++ code.

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                                          Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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