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    kamalakshantv
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    [quote author="Phil_in_China" date="1297414647"]So I had better stop learning Qt and start learning WP7 !![/quote]

    Now there is no idea where this is going to. First Symbian then Symbian Foundation the Qt for Symbian - back to Symbian licensing and now to WP7.

    Android looks interesting for this point of view.

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      stukdev
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      Qt for WP7?!?

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        milot.shala
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        [quote author="stuk" date="1297415522"]Qt for WP7?!?[/quote]

        Well that can be done, "@snowpong":http://www.twitter.com/snowpong was responsible for porting Qt to Windows Mobile/CE and Symbian and he said that WP7 is using the Windows CE kernel and Qt already works on that... but are we allowed to publish our Qt apps to the WP7 App Market? I don't know :)

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          stukdev
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          I hope...

          [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297415657"][quote author="stuk" date="1297415522"]Qt for WP7?!?[/quote]

          Well that can be done, "@snowpong":http://www.twitter.com/snowpong was responsible for porting Qt to Windows Mobile/CE and Symbian and he said that WP7 is using the Windows CE kernel and Qt already works on that... but are we allowed to publish our Qt apps to the WP7 App Market? I don't know :)[/quote]

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            marsupial
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            I think this is one of the worst decisions Nokia could have made. They give up a huge part of their own potential!

            bq. Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same. With 200 million users worldwide and Nokia planning to sell around 150 million more Symbian devices, Symbian still offers unparalleled geographical scale for developers.

            That sounds like "qt will not play a major role in the future, but we wont let it die on mobile platforms right away, we'll give it a last respite - but when that 150 million devices are sold out, that will be it.

            The smartest decision nokia could make right now is to put a lot of efforts in porting Qt to Windows Phone 7 (and possibly other platforms) - otherwise developers will turn away from Nokia.

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              milot.shala
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              [quote author="marsupial" date="1297415883"]I think this is one of the worst decisions Nokia could have made. They give up a huge part of their own potential!

              bq. Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same. With 200 million users worldwide and Nokia planning to sell around 150 million more Symbian devices, Symbian still offers unparalleled geographical scale for developers.

              That sounds like "qt will not play a major role in the future, but we wont let it die on mobile platforms right away, we'll give it a last respite - but when that 150 million devices are sold out, that will be it.

              The smartest decision nokia could make right now is to put a lot of efforts in porting Qt to Windows Phone 7 (and possibly other platforms) - otherwise developers will turn away from Nokia.[/quote]

              After I saw the announcement, the first thing I was thinking was "this":http://www.di.fm/images/android.png

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                kamalakshantv
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                [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297416210"]
                [quote author="marsupial" date="1297415883"]I think this is one of the worst decisions Nokia could have made. They give up a huge part of their own potential!

                bq. Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same. With 200 million users worldwide and Nokia planning to sell around 150 million more Symbian devices, Symbian still offers unparalleled geographical scale for developers.

                That sounds like "qt will not play a major role in the future, but we wont let it die on mobile platforms right away, we'll give it a last respite - but when that 150 million devices are sold out, that will be it.

                The smartest decision nokia could make right now is to put a lot of efforts in porting Qt to Windows Phone 7 (and possibly other platforms) - otherwise developers will turn away from Nokia.[/quote]

                After I saw the announcement, the first thing I was thinking was "this":http://www.di.fm/images/android.png[/quote]

                Now this seems to be the best option. Both Nokia and Microsoft's press release does not mention anything about Qt.

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                  marsupial
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                  [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297416210"]After I saw the announcement, the first thing I was thinking was "this":http://www.di.fm/images/android.png[/quote]

                  Yeah, I'm afraid most developers will think that way. In my opinion, Symbian was a neat mobile platform, especially since Qt is available for Symbian.
                  Furthermore, MeeGo cold be established for high-end smartphones - but Nokia is just throwing away both of it.
                  Of course, Microsoft will be the one to profit most from this cooperation, not Nokia. It's almost like Elop is still being paid by Microsoft :D Nokia is downgrading itself to a pure hardware manufacturer again, just like HTC... That is sad.

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                    kamalakshantv
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                    Also they have announced the immediate departure of Alberto Torres, who was in charge of Nokia's MeeGo project.

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                      maciej
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                      Congratulations Nokia, you've just shot yourself in the foot.

                      Earth is a beta site.

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                        parancibia
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                        Nokia to developers: "no Qt for Windows Phone development ":http://engt.co/eJJXja

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                          dguimard
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                          I have a lot of doubt about Qt Future now....the deal is very clearly explain, knowing microsoft we can guess what will happend....

                          I dont think they will put effort on QT since MSFT already have tools for building application.

                          QT is a real passion for me and today i am very sad about the strategy same if...maybe, probably people didnt react when they saw successives release of IOS...and android gaining in functionnalities and market share.

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Microsoft

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                            stukdev
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                            Live event
                            http://www-waa-akam.thomson-webcast.net/uk/dispatching/?event_id=2dd7139793f7dc9f43109186244f14dc&portal_id=369401748e8249f142a700d8098a3473&sf1066342=1

                            http://twitter.com/qtbynokia/status/36012807392591872

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                              disperso
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                              [quote author="maciek" date="1297417647"]Congratulations Nokia, you've just shot yourself in the foot.[/quote]

                              Congratulations, Elop, you cut Nokia's veins.

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                                vsorokin
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                                Oh... Elop, Elop... What are you doing? I'm very sad and angry.

                                --
                                Vasiliy

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                                  dguimard
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                                  let' s cut the chase , what will become the participation of Nokia to Meego ???

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                                    dguimard
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                                    answer here
                                    http://unplugged.rcrwireless.com/index.php/20110211/news/6974/nokia-kills-symbian-sidelines-meego/

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                                      Schneidi
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                                      Oh no, I'm overwhelmed by this news today.
                                      Let's hope that nokia doesn't consider to stop the work on Qt.

                                      I can't understand the decision to cooperate with MS. I mean what is wrong with Meego ?
                                      What is the reason to turn away from it ?

                                      Nokia is not really important to me, but Qt is so amazing, what does MS have what Qt can't offer ?

                                      This step is so wrong it hurts.

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                                        cyberbobs
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                                        Ok, guys, if we don't really want to die from hunger, maybe we must start learning C# and WPF now :(

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                                          CreMindES
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                                          I'm just, well, sad... I was happy to see that Nokia is about to find it's right path again, making better and better Symbian, and developint MeeGo. And now all my dreams about to break... Maybe it's a little to dramatic, but I really feel like this now. I would hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid I'm not. :(

                                          (oh and ecosystem is just another word to bull's.hit...)

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