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    marsupial
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    [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297416210"]After I saw the announcement, the first thing I was thinking was "this":http://www.di.fm/images/android.png[/quote]

    Yeah, I'm afraid most developers will think that way. In my opinion, Symbian was a neat mobile platform, especially since Qt is available for Symbian.
    Furthermore, MeeGo cold be established for high-end smartphones - but Nokia is just throwing away both of it.
    Of course, Microsoft will be the one to profit most from this cooperation, not Nokia. It's almost like Elop is still being paid by Microsoft :D Nokia is downgrading itself to a pure hardware manufacturer again, just like HTC... That is sad.

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      kamalakshantv
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      Also they have announced the immediate departure of Alberto Torres, who was in charge of Nokia's MeeGo project.

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        maciej
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        Congratulations Nokia, you've just shot yourself in the foot.

        Earth is a beta site.

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          parancibia
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          Nokia to developers: "no Qt for Windows Phone development ":http://engt.co/eJJXja

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            dguimard
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            I have a lot of doubt about Qt Future now....the deal is very clearly explain, knowing microsoft we can guess what will happend....

            I dont think they will put effort on QT since MSFT already have tools for building application.

            QT is a real passion for me and today i am very sad about the strategy same if...maybe, probably people didnt react when they saw successives release of IOS...and android gaining in functionnalities and market share.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Microsoft

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              stukdev
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              Live event
              http://www-waa-akam.thomson-webcast.net/uk/dispatching/?event_id=2dd7139793f7dc9f43109186244f14dc&portal_id=369401748e8249f142a700d8098a3473&sf1066342=1

              http://twitter.com/qtbynokia/status/36012807392591872

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                disperso
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                [quote author="maciek" date="1297417647"]Congratulations Nokia, you've just shot yourself in the foot.[/quote]

                Congratulations, Elop, you cut Nokia's veins.

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                  vsorokin
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                  Oh... Elop, Elop... What are you doing? I'm very sad and angry.

                  --
                  Vasiliy

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                    dguimard
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                    let' s cut the chase , what will become the participation of Nokia to Meego ???

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                      dguimard
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                      answer here
                      http://unplugged.rcrwireless.com/index.php/20110211/news/6974/nokia-kills-symbian-sidelines-meego/

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                        Schneidi
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                        Oh no, I'm overwhelmed by this news today.
                        Let's hope that nokia doesn't consider to stop the work on Qt.

                        I can't understand the decision to cooperate with MS. I mean what is wrong with Meego ?
                        What is the reason to turn away from it ?

                        Nokia is not really important to me, but Qt is so amazing, what does MS have what Qt can't offer ?

                        This step is so wrong it hurts.

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                          cyberbobs
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                          Ok, guys, if we don't really want to die from hunger, maybe we must start learning C# and WPF now :(

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                            CreMindES
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                            I'm just, well, sad... I was happy to see that Nokia is about to find it's right path again, making better and better Symbian, and developint MeeGo. And now all my dreams about to break... Maybe it's a little to dramatic, but I really feel like this now. I would hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid I'm not. :(

                            (oh and ecosystem is just another word to bull's.hit...)

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                              dguimard
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                              I would love a more clear statement for developers concerning the change of plan , and how it will affect the QT ROADMAP.

                              should i stay or should i go like say the song
                              :)

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                                sleam
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                                Well, this was the end of the road for our team.
                                Good bye Nokia and Qt. When we bet on Qt we bet on the wrong horse, thousands of development hours wasted! Never again. We are migrating to Android right now.
                                Bye!

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                                  troubalex
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                                  It's difficult right now, we know. We are doing our best to keep you in the loop but we heard about all of it this morning, just like everybody else.

                                  THE CAKE IS A LIE
                                  Web Community Manager - Qt Development Frameworks

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                                    qtnext
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                                    the fact that there is no communication about Qt for Trolltech guys, For all community Developers, for Commercials developers ... at the same time that Elop announce the shift sound clearly bad ... and it's a clear means that Qt developers is NOT important for Nokia ...
                                    I really hopes that there will be A TROLLTECH Qt futur ... and not Qt Nokia futur because I won't anymore trust in Nokia ...

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                                      codenode
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                                      As I posted in the Qt Ambassador Group:

                                      I am kind of disappointed by Nokia today I must say. The Announcement of a kind-of full shift to Windows Phone, without really mentioning any promising plans for Qt or MeeGo, makes me sad.
                                      You have earned a lot of respect in the Linux- and Developerscene with your envolvment for Qt.
                                      This is now all at stake, what is the Future of Qt with Nokia?
                                      Qt at its own will survive for sure, as its a competitive Framework ready to hit the market.
                                      But what Part will Nokia play?
                                      What will happen to Projects like Qt Creator now?

                                      Also, imho, don’t expect that the devs shift now to WP7, as its a different ecosystem.
                                      The promise that you gave last fall, that Qt is the one and only software platform is already kind of broken by now.

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                                        PeterWinston
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                                        I still have faith in Qt. Qt has a bright future,

                                        Don't be so down on Qt. It's just as great today as it was yesterday.

                                        There are still many people and companies using Qt. I was pleased to see how quickly Intel was able to announce their continued support for meego. There are many companies using Qt on the desktop, and in their devices, it is still the right choice.

                                        Yes, I would have liked to see Qt on WinMo, but frankly, as good as that would have been for us, it would have fragmented the WinMo ecosystem.

                                        Don't assume that no news is bad news, Yes, WinMo is going to take the limelight position, and we don't know where Qt winds up within Nokia. Nokia has been good for Qt. Give Nokia management time to work their plans.

                                        Qt has a bright future...

                                        If Nokia choose to continue to support Qt, its because they have interest in it moving forward, -even if they can't publicly say what that interest is.

                                        If Nokia has no interest in Qt, it still has value and they will sell it.
                                        If for some reason, Qt got dropped on the floor, there is still the LGPL. I know of many companies will come together to support the LGPL version.

                                        Qt has a bright future....

                                        Peter Winston

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                                          charleyb
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                                          Oh, this hurts my heart.

                                          I just posted this on the QML-interest thread, re-posting here, because of how serious I believe this issue to be.


                                          With Nokia backing Windows Phone 7, and (implied) abandonment of MeeGo, ... that really puts QML into question.

                                          IMHO, all the world is moving to "declarative property exposure" separating the business logic from the interface, and hands down Qt/QML was the BEST platform I've ever seen -- and defined the best-of-breed among today's declarative property interface development paradigms.

                                          This Nokia abandonment hurts my heart. Nokia screwed up royally here -- I can no longer recommend that our company pursue QML commercial development seriously now. Microsoft will win big (they needed attention on WinPhone7), and they kill the strongest competitor possible (Qt/QML/MeeGo). Nokia will be screwed when they wake up one morning in the not-distant future, realizing their developers have left them, they have mediocre tools and platform, and no longer control their own operating system.

                                          Quite seriously, the new Nokia CEO from Microsoft seems to still be working for Microsoft. This will inevitably become the developer equivalent stupidity to the "New Coke" introduction, and the "AOL/Times Warner" merger.

                                          So sad.

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