Rumor discussion: Nokia and Microsoft to team up on Windows Phone 7
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[quote author="ness522" date="1296906193"]What would be nice is to develop mobile apps with Qt and deploy on Symbian, Meego, Android, WP7 and why not Iphone :)
"Code once, deploy everywhere", that's what they said [/quote]
Symbian, MeeGo, Android are possible today :) IPhone is known as possible platform, but port is 3rdparty closed-source stuff. WP7 is the one where I doubt that we will see Qt (because of all this Silverlight stuff).
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I mostly agree with mario. Symbian and MeeGo are great (or will be). It's just a thought that the media planted in the people that Symbian^3 isn't good enought now. I've read everywhere that Symbian^3 is just a bugfix and so on, but when I got my awesome Nokia C7, I was surprised of the improvements in Symbian^3 after using my 5800. And with the PR. 2.0 it will be even better.
I see many people using Android and Bada phones, but they aren't better. There are some things that they can and Symbian doesn't, and there are some things that it can and the others doesn't. iPhone is just ... an Apple product, where the hilosophy is: "It's not a bug, it's a feature!", oh come on...
Oh, and about Android, I know that Nokia have a new CEO, but I like what "Anssi Vanjoki have said":http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/21/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-anssi-vanjoki-says-using-android-is-like-pe/: "using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth" . And there is in this metafora, because the big money is in the services and the hardware together, and HTC and the others give one of the two to Google.
So there will be a great Symbian OS with Qt on our awesome Nokia devices, there will be an even greater MeeGo platform!
Oh, and about the Microsoft, I rather like the idea of some other collaboration than smart phones, maybe a tablet or a new booklet or a new service.
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[quote author="CreMindES" date="1296917553"]I mostly agree with mario. Symbian and MeeGo are great (or will be). It's just a thought that the media planted in the people that Symbian^3 isn't good enought now. I've read everywhere that Symbian^3 is just a bugfix and so on, but when I got my awesome Nokia C7, I was surprised of the improvements in Symbian^3 after using my 5800. And with the PR. 2.0 it will be even better.
I see many people using Android and Bada phones, but they aren't better. There are some things that they can and Symbian doesn't, and there are some things that it can and the others doesn't. iPhone is just ... an Apple product, where the hilosophy is: "It's not a bug, it's a feature!", oh come on...
Oh, and about Android, I know that Nokia have a new CEO, but I like what "Anssi Vanjoki have said":http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/21/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-anssi-vanjoki-says-using-android-is-like-pe/: "using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth" . And there is in this metafora, because the big money is in the services and the hardware together, and HTC and the others give one of the two to Google.
So there will be a great Symbian OS with Qt on our awesome Nokia devices, there will be an even greater MeeGo platform!
Oh, and about the Microsoft, I rather like the idea of some other collaboration than smart phones, maybe a tablet or a new booklet or a new service.
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I agree with you here. Also to add I can play HD movies from my external 1TB hard drive on my 42" HD TV using my Nokia N8 with HDMI output and USB input! Isn't this brilliant?
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I also hope they make it a bit easier to publish apps on Ovi. I have publish one app and it took my over 1.5 months to get it accepted.
The guys over at Cutehacks (read the blog post here: "http://cutehacks.com/2011/02/01/28-days-later/":http://cutehacks.com/2011/02/01/28-days-later/ also experienced the same thing, but it only took them 28 days :)
But I have faith that Nokia does something about it...
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Finally there is this official announcement from microsoft.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2011/feb11/02-11partnership.mspx
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"A Letter to Developers about Today's News":http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/nokia-developer-news/2011/02/11/letter-to-developers?sf1066337=1
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[quote author="sleam" date="1297413163"]Well, this was the death of Qt, right?[/quote]
It seems so atleast in the Mobile devices world. I am really feeling bad after hearing this announcements.
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So I had better stop learning Qt and start learning WP7 !!
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[quote author="Phil_in_China" date="1297414647"]So I had better stop learning Qt and start learning WP7 !![/quote]
Now there is no idea where this is going to. First Symbian then Symbian Foundation the Qt for Symbian - back to Symbian licensing and now to WP7.
Android looks interesting for this point of view.
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[quote author="stuk" date="1297415522"]Qt for WP7?!?[/quote]
Well that can be done, "@snowpong":http://www.twitter.com/snowpong was responsible for porting Qt to Windows Mobile/CE and Symbian and he said that WP7 is using the Windows CE kernel and Qt already works on that... but are we allowed to publish our Qt apps to the WP7 App Market? I don't know :)
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I hope...
[quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297415657"][quote author="stuk" date="1297415522"]Qt for WP7?!?[/quote]
Well that can be done, "@snowpong":http://www.twitter.com/snowpong was responsible for porting Qt to Windows Mobile/CE and Symbian and he said that WP7 is using the Windows CE kernel and Qt already works on that... but are we allowed to publish our Qt apps to the WP7 App Market? I don't know :)[/quote]
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I think this is one of the worst decisions Nokia could have made. They give up a huge part of their own potential!
bq. Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same. With 200 million users worldwide and Nokia planning to sell around 150 million more Symbian devices, Symbian still offers unparalleled geographical scale for developers.
That sounds like "qt will not play a major role in the future, but we wont let it die on mobile platforms right away, we'll give it a last respite - but when that 150 million devices are sold out, that will be it.
The smartest decision nokia could make right now is to put a lot of efforts in porting Qt to Windows Phone 7 (and possibly other platforms) - otherwise developers will turn away from Nokia.
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[quote author="marsupial" date="1297415883"]I think this is one of the worst decisions Nokia could have made. They give up a huge part of their own potential!
bq. Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same. With 200 million users worldwide and Nokia planning to sell around 150 million more Symbian devices, Symbian still offers unparalleled geographical scale for developers.
That sounds like "qt will not play a major role in the future, but we wont let it die on mobile platforms right away, we'll give it a last respite - but when that 150 million devices are sold out, that will be it.
The smartest decision nokia could make right now is to put a lot of efforts in porting Qt to Windows Phone 7 (and possibly other platforms) - otherwise developers will turn away from Nokia.[/quote]
After I saw the announcement, the first thing I was thinking was "this":http://www.di.fm/images/android.png
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[quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297416210"]
[quote author="marsupial" date="1297415883"]I think this is one of the worst decisions Nokia could have made. They give up a huge part of their own potential!bq. Qt will continue to be the development framework for Symbian and Nokia will use Symbian for further devices; continuing to develop strategic applications in Qt for Symbian platform and encouraging application developers to do the same. With 200 million users worldwide and Nokia planning to sell around 150 million more Symbian devices, Symbian still offers unparalleled geographical scale for developers.
That sounds like "qt will not play a major role in the future, but we wont let it die on mobile platforms right away, we'll give it a last respite - but when that 150 million devices are sold out, that will be it.
The smartest decision nokia could make right now is to put a lot of efforts in porting Qt to Windows Phone 7 (and possibly other platforms) - otherwise developers will turn away from Nokia.[/quote]
After I saw the announcement, the first thing I was thinking was "this":http://www.di.fm/images/android.png[/quote]
Now this seems to be the best option. Both Nokia and Microsoft's press release does not mention anything about Qt.
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[quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297416210"]After I saw the announcement, the first thing I was thinking was "this":http://www.di.fm/images/android.png[/quote]
Yeah, I'm afraid most developers will think that way. In my opinion, Symbian was a neat mobile platform, especially since Qt is available for Symbian.
Furthermore, MeeGo cold be established for high-end smartphones - but Nokia is just throwing away both of it.
Of course, Microsoft will be the one to profit most from this cooperation, not Nokia. It's almost like Elop is still being paid by Microsoft :D Nokia is downgrading itself to a pure hardware manufacturer again, just like HTC... That is sad. -
Also they have announced the immediate departure of Alberto Torres, who was in charge of Nokia's MeeGo project.
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Nokia to developers: "no Qt for Windows Phone development ":http://engt.co/eJJXja