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  • ekkescornerE Offline
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    ekkescorner
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    #6

    just noticed that my workaround isn't always working :(
    runs on Android 14 Motorola Device, Android 13 Samsung Device,
    but fails on Android 15 Pixel9a Device
    seems we have to wait for 6.9.2: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-135808

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      I actually react on the onCompleted

      Component.onCompleted: {
              applyNewMargins()
          }
      

      to fetch the safe area margins

      function applyNewMargins(){
              if(isMobile){
                  var map =           safeMargins.getSafeAreaMargins(mainWindow)
                  safeMarginLeft =    map["left"] * 2 / 3
                  safeMarginRight =   map["right"] * 2 / 3
                  safeMarginTop =     map["top"] * 2 / 3
                  safeMarginBottom =  map["bottom"] * 2 / 3
              }
      }
      

      from my c++ backend. Haven't noticed any new timing issues. But this was ma solution way back in the day where the margins weren't available on application start. Don't see any flickering either


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      • ekkescornerE Offline
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        #8

        thx for the info.
        I want to use the Qt 6.9 SafeArea. works well on iOS and hopefully with 6.9.2 on Android, too - so ATM I'll wait for 6.9.2

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          ekkescorner
          Qt Champions 2016
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          #9

          BTW: if you want to opt-out from Android-35 edge-to-edge
          you have to add styles.xml and add in Manifest... activity... android:theme="@style/NormalTheme"
          see the details here:
          https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/630376

          ekke ... Qt Champion 2016 | 2024 ... mobile business apps
          5.15 --> 6.9 https://t1p.de/ekkeChecklist
          QMake --> CMake https://t1p.de/ekkeCMakeMobileApps

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          • ekkescornerE ekkescorner

            BTW: if you want to opt-out from Android-35 edge-to-edge
            you have to add styles.xml and add in Manifest... activity... android:theme="@style/NormalTheme"
            see the details here:
            https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/630376

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            BTSTOnline
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            @ekkescorner said in Android 15 (API 35) / Qt 6.9.1: SafeArea=0 at startup in plain Window; content under notch/nav until TextField focus:

            BTW: if you want to opt-out from Android-35 edge-to-edge
            you have to add styles.xml and add in Manifest... activity... android:theme="@style/NormalTheme"
            see the details here:
            https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/630376

            This worked for me...Thanks!

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            • B BTSTOnline

              @ekkescorner said in Android 15 (API 35) / Qt 6.9.1: SafeArea=0 at startup in plain Window; content under notch/nav until TextField focus:

              BTW: if you want to opt-out from Android-35 edge-to-edge
              you have to add styles.xml and add in Manifest... activity... android:theme="@style/NormalTheme"
              see the details here:
              https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/630376

              This worked for me...Thanks!

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              ekkescorner
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              @BTSTOnline cool :)

              ekke ... Qt Champion 2016 | 2024 ... mobile business apps
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              • P Pann

                Problem

                I want a simple Qt Quick app that does NOT draw under the notch / status bar / nav bar. I’m not going for immersive; I’m not setting Qt.ExpandedClientAreaHint. I bind my layout margins to SafeArea.margins.* (similar to the Qt 6.9 blog post “Expanded Client Areas & Safe Areas” by Tor Arne Vestbø).

                Issue: On Android (targetSdk 35), at cold start my content still shows under the system bars. Debug logs show SafeArea.margins = 0. As soon as I tap a TextField (IME shows), SafeArea updates to non-zero and the layout snaps to the correct padded position.

                So it seems SafeArea isn’t initialized with valid insets until the first insets/resize event.

                Minimal-ish Repro (closer to my real app)

                import QtQuick
                import QtQuick.Controls
                import QtQuick.Layouts
                import QtCore
                
                Window {
                    id: root
                    visible: true
                    width: 360
                    height: 640
                    title: "Demo"
                
                    // design padding in addition to SafeArea
                    property int designPadding: 12
                
                    // SafeArea bindings
                    property real safeTop:    SafeArea.margins.top
                    property real safeBottom: SafeArea.margins.bottom
                    property real safeLeft:   SafeArea.margins.left
                    property real safeRight:  SafeArea.margins.right
                
                    // Debug: watch SafeArea
                    Timer {
                        interval: 500; running: true; repeat: true
                        onTriggered: console.log("[safe]", root.safeTop, root.safeBottom,
                                                 root.safeLeft, root.safeRight)
                    }
                
                    // Pretend persistent settings (trimmed)
                    Settings {
                        id: saved
                        property string host: ""
                        property string port: ""
                    }
                
                    // Layout that should be padded out of unsafe areas
                    ColumnLayout {
                        anchors.fill: parent
                        anchors.topMargin:    root.designPadding + root.safeTop
                        anchors.bottomMargin: root.designPadding + root.safeBottom
                        anchors.leftMargin:   root.designPadding + root.safeLeft
                        anchors.rightMargin:  root.designPadding + root.safeRight
                        spacing: 10
                
                        Label {
                            text: "App"
                            font.pixelSize: 24
                            Layout.alignment: Qt.AlignHCenter
                        }
                
                        TextField {
                            id: hostInput
                            Layout.fillWidth: true
                            placeholderText: "Host"
                            text: saved.host
                        }
                
                        TextField {
                            id: portInput
                            Layout.fillWidth: true
                            placeholderText: "Port"
                            text: saved.port.length ? saved.port : "5300"
                        }
                
                        Item { Layout.fillHeight: true }
                
                        Button {
                            text: "Connect"
                            Layout.fillWidth: true
                        }
                    }
                }
                

                Observed logs:
                • Before tapping input: all SafeArea margins 0; content under status bar.
                • After tapping input (IME): SafeArea margins become non-zero; layout correct.

                ⸻

                Extra: I tried forcing a 1-px geometry “nudge” after visible (resize there & back) to provoke inset delivery; did not help reliably.

                Is this expected behavior for SafeArea on Android with a plain Window?
                Should I be waiting for a specific signal, or just switch to ApplicationWindow for early safe-area padding?
                If this looks like a bug/regression, happy to file a Qt bug report — let me know what data would help.

                Thanks!

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                garycho
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                #12

                @Pann Tapping into a a TextField , brings up the virtual keyboard - this is what corrects the safeArea . Programmatically bring up the virtual keyboard to achieves the same effect.

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                  #13

                  I figured out a temporarily workaround by bringing up the virtual keyboard, which initializes the SafeArea margins correctly, and hide the keyboard immediately. At your constructor add this

                  connect(QGuiApplication::inputMethod(),SIGNAL(visibleChanged()),this,SLOT(closeKeyboard()));
                  QGuiApplication::inputMethod()->show();
                  

                  Then create a slot

                  
                  void MyApp::closeKeyboard()
                  {
                      if (QGuiApplication::inputMethod()->isVisible())
                      {
                          QGuiApplication::inputMethod()->hide();
                          disconnect(QGuiApplication::inputMethod(),SIGNAL(visibleChanged()),this,SLOT(closeKeyboard()));
                      }
                  }
                  

                  On activation of the virtual keyboard, the visibleChanged() signal will trigger the closeKeyboard() slot. This hides the keyboard and disconnects the signal/slot. You may get a glimpse of keyboard animating in/out... I find this to be a reliable workaround and easiest to undo , once this bug is fixed.

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                    Qt Champions 2016
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    Qt 6.9.3 should fix this and is scheduled for today - or coming soon ;-)

                    current state of Bugs around Safe Areas:

                    6.9.3:

                    • fixes getting SafeArea values at startup for Android 9 to 16, Android SplitScreen should also work
                    • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-135808)
                    • Android NavigationBar in SwipeViews and more fixed in 6.9.3 and 6.10.1, but NOT in 6.10.0 !
                    • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-139690)
                    • fixes Android orientation -flicker and half-screen-glitches
                      (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-132718)

                    6.10.0:

                    • same as 6.9.3, BUT:
                    • Android NavigationBar in SwipeViews and more fixed in 6.9.3 and 6.10.1, but NOT in 6.10.0 !
                    • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-139690)

                    6.10.1:

                    • Android problems with color scheme fixed
                    • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-137248)
                    • Android NavigationBar in SwipeViews and more fixed in 6.9.3 and 6.10.1, but NOT in 6.10.0 !
                    • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-139690)

                    ekke ... Qt Champion 2016 | 2024 ... mobile business apps
                    5.15 --> 6.9 https://t1p.de/ekkeChecklist
                    QMake --> CMake https://t1p.de/ekkeCMakeMobileApps

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                    • ekkescornerE ekkescorner

                      Qt 6.9.3 should fix this and is scheduled for today - or coming soon ;-)

                      current state of Bugs around Safe Areas:

                      6.9.3:

                      • fixes getting SafeArea values at startup for Android 9 to 16, Android SplitScreen should also work
                      • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-135808)
                      • Android NavigationBar in SwipeViews and more fixed in 6.9.3 and 6.10.1, but NOT in 6.10.0 !
                      • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-139690)
                      • fixes Android orientation -flicker and half-screen-glitches
                        (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-132718)

                      6.10.0:

                      • same as 6.9.3, BUT:
                      • Android NavigationBar in SwipeViews and more fixed in 6.9.3 and 6.10.1, but NOT in 6.10.0 !
                      • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-139690)

                      6.10.1:

                      • Android problems with color scheme fixed
                      • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-137248)
                      • Android NavigationBar in SwipeViews and more fixed in 6.9.3 and 6.10.1, but NOT in 6.10.0 !
                      • (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-139690)
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                      wrote on last edited by garycho
                      #15

                      @ekkescorner Thanks for the information Looking forward to the fix. I've been spending too much time, finding ways around this bug.

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                        ekkescorner
                        Qt Champions 2016
                        wrote on last edited by ekkescorner
                        #16

                        and 6.9.3 is here :) https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.9.3-released

                        edit: just did first tests with 6.9.3 on Android: now SafeArea values are there from start, also NavigationBar much better now :)

                        ekke ... Qt Champion 2016 | 2024 ... mobile business apps
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                        QMake --> CMake https://t1p.de/ekkeCMakeMobileApps

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                          @ekkescorner Thanks for the information Looking forward to the fix. I've been spending too much time, finding ways around this bug.

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                          ekkescorner
                          Qt Champions 2016
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @garycho said in Android 15 (API 35) / Qt 6.9.1: SafeArea=0 at startup in plain Window; content under notch/nav until TextField focus:

                          I've been spending too much time, finding ways around this bug

                          yep. always much time spending to report and follow all the bugreports and writing test applications like https://github.com/ekke/ekkesTestStatusBar
                          will update my test app next days with experiences from 6.9.3

                          ekke ... Qt Champion 2016 | 2024 ... mobile business apps
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                          • ekkescornerE ekkescorner

                            and 6.9.3 is here :) https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.9.3-released

                            edit: just did first tests with 6.9.3 on Android: now SafeArea values are there from start, also NavigationBar much better now :)

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                            #18

                            @ekkescorner Excellent. Just compiled with 6.9.3 and the SafeArea margin is set correctly on start . The navigation bar is now grey instead of black.

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                              @ekkescorner Excellent. Just compiled with 6.9.3 and the SafeArea margin is set correctly on start . The navigation bar is now grey instead of black.

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                              ekkescorner
                              Qt Champions 2016
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              @garycho said in Android 15 (API 35) / Qt 6.9.1: SafeArea=0 at startup in plain Window; content under notch/nav until TextField focus:

                              SafeArea margin is set correctly on start

                              great to hear that it also works for you :)

                              ekke ... Qt Champion 2016 | 2024 ... mobile business apps
                              5.15 --> 6.9 https://t1p.de/ekkeChecklist
                              QMake --> CMake https://t1p.de/ekkeCMakeMobileApps

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