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    lgeyer
    wrote on 27 Nov 2012, 12:56 last edited by
    #102

    See http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2012-October/007215.html

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      cedrix
      wrote on 15 Dec 2012, 16:43 last edited by
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      Hi,

      First I have setup qt5 (both with the linux birnary file and by compiling it) on an Ubuntu 12.04 (and 11.10) KVM virtual machine. But I can't launch any graphical qt program. I have issue with QPainter: that kind of mistakes:

      @cedric@cedric-virtual-machine:~/Qt5.0.0beta2/5.0.0-beta2/gcc/bin$ ./assistant
      QWidget::paintEngine: Should no longer be called
      QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 1
      QWidget::paintEngine: Should no longer be called
      QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 1
      QPainter::font: Painter not active
      QPainter::pen: Painter not active
      ...@

      So I tried on a windows 32 bits virtual machine. First I installed it with the binary but I couldn't find our the right microsoft compiler so it could work. So I tryed to compile it with mingw32-make. It worked with the following config:
      @configure -platform win32-g++ -opengl desktop@
      Yeah I couldn't find the right version of direct X sdk so I had some issue and choose to use the opengl option.

      This version doesn't work with qt creator. I don't know if it is suppoed to? I have an issue with "ABI detection failed. Make sur to use a matching compiler when building. No qml viewer." But I can launch the program named qmlviewer.exe. Also I can compile the following application with qmake.

      pro file:
      @######################################################################

      Automatically generated by qmake (3.0) sam. 15. déc. 15:49:19 2012

      ######################################################################

      QT += widgets
      TEMPLATE = app
      TARGET = test03withoutCreator
      DEPENDPATH += .
      INCLUDEPATH += .

      Input

      SOURCES += main.cpp
      @

      main.cpp
      @#include <QGuiApplication>
      #include <QPushButton>

      Q_DECL_EXPORT int main(int argc, char *argv[]){
      QGuiApplication app(argc, argv);

      QPushButton button("work");
      button.show();
      
      return app.exec(&#41;;
      

      }@

      but then, I have no idea how to launch it. I did:
      @qmake
      mingw32-make release@
      Then I put the binary file in qtbase/bin, but I when I launch the application, I get the following message:
      "This application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way."
      But the exemples and demos can be launch without any dll in their direcotry. I don't get how that is possible.

      Someone know what I should do so I can compile and launch application?

      Sincerly,

      Cédric

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        fxtech
        wrote on 19 Dec 2012, 20:15 last edited by
        #104

        I'm having trouble building the final release on Windows 7 x64 with both VS2008 and VS2012. I have ActivePerl and Python 2.7 installed and in the path, and in both cases when I run "configure" I get this error:
        @
        'T:\home\Qt\5.0.0\qtbase\configure.exe' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
        *** qtbase/configure exited with non-zero status.@

        Any ideas?

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          Moderators
          wrote on 20 Dec 2012, 06:42 last edited by
          #105

          -You should be running configure.exe on windows, not the bash script.-

          Add a file named ".gitignore" to the root folder or comment out line 45 in configure.bat.

          (Z(:^

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            jamcguire
            wrote on 28 Dec 2012, 00:33 last edited by
            #106

            After several failed attempts at building, here's how I finally managed to get QT5 to build with Nuwen.net's MinGW 9.4, on Windows 7 64 bit SP1 without webkit.

            I already had Nuwen's mingw 9.4 installed (9.5 is now available), this can be obtained from http://www.nuwen.net/mingw.html

            This needs to be extracted to c:\mingw or similar, and c:\mingw\bin will need to be in the PATH env variable.

            Then I copied c:\mingw\bin\make.exe to c:\mingw\bin\mingw32-make.exe

            I then downloaded and installed the following:

            http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.3.0/python-3.3.0.amd64.msi
            http://files.rubyforge.vm.bytemark.co.uk/rubyinstaller/rubyinstaller-1.9.3-p362.exe
            http://downloads.activestate.com/ActivePerl/releases/5.16.1.1601/ActivePerl-5.16.1.1601-MSWin32-x64-296175.msi
            https://msysgit.googlecode.com/files/Git-1.8.0-preview20121022.exe

            I used the installers to set the path for python, ruby and perl.

            I downloaded QT5 (27th Dec 2012):

            git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt5.git qt5
            cd qt5
            perl init-repository

            Configured QT5:

            configure -developer-build -opensource -nomake examples -nomake tests -qt-pcre -qt-libjpeg -opengl desktop

            • Configure informed me that webkit would not be built due to a missing dependency, so no additional parameters were required to disable this.
            • I have an ATi Radeon graphics driver with builtin OpenGL support
            • By default configure sets pcre to 'system' at one point I downloaded and built the latest version of pcre, including the pcre16 library, I placed this into my system path, but ld was still unable to locate the library and there was no means of passing the -L parameter to ld from what I can tell, build would fail with 'unable to locate pcre16', once you specify -qt-pcre as per the above, the build will use the embedded pcre library and magically succeed.
            • Again, for me, build would fail without specifying -qt-libjpeg

            I then simply ran 'make'

            Good luck!

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              dpinol
              wrote on 9 Jan 2013, 16:38 last edited by
              #107

              What is the url for the development branch for qt5?
              git://gitorious.org/qt/qt5.git does not have modifications since December, and git://gitorious.org/qt/qt.git still contains 4.8

              thanks

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                wrote on 9 Jan 2013, 16:41 last edited by
                #108

                Every module has a separate git repository, with the exception of QtCore, QtNetwork, QtGui, they are in qtbase.

                (Z(:^

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                  Moderators
                  wrote on 9 Jan 2013, 17:20 last edited by
                  #109

                  [quote author="sierdzio" date="1357749703"]Every module has a separate git repository, with the exception of QtCore, QtNetwork, QtGui, they are in qtbase.[/quote]Actually,

                  qtbase.git contains:

                  • Qt Concurrent
                  • Qt Core
                  • Qt D-Bus
                  • Qt GUI
                  • Qt Network
                  • Qt OpenGL
                  • Qt Print Support
                  • Qt SQL
                  • Qt Test
                  • Qt Widgets
                  • Qt XML

                  qtdeclarative.git contains:

                  • Qt QML
                  • Qt Quick

                  Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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                    Moderators
                    wrote on 9 Jan 2013, 17:23 last edited by
                    #110

                    Ah, I've been punished for my laziness, thank you for that ;)

                    (Z(:^

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                      yeckel
                      wrote on 5 Feb 2013, 15:37 last edited by
                      #111

                      Hi, I've succeed with compiling QT5 for arm (raspberry pi) what is not working for me is localized keyboard input in eglfs. When i use loadkeys de.kmap and than start an application. The keyboard is again Generic (US). But in console localized keyboard works. Did I miss something in compile or programming time?

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                        Moderators
                        wrote on 6 Feb 2013, 11:59 last edited by
                        #112

                        Hi yeckel,

                        I don't have any experience with the Raspberry Pi, but I recommend posting your question in the "Qt Project Mobile and Embedded subforum":http://qt-project.org/forums/viewforum/11/ or the "Raspberry Pi forum":http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/

                        Qt Doc Search for browsers: forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches

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                          maitai
                          wrote on 25 Feb 2013, 17:51 last edited by
                          #113

                          Hello,

                          I am trying to compile qt5.0.1 in 32bits mode using msvc2012 on a 64bits machine. I have succesfully build the exactly same sources in 64bits mode, many times.

                          So I opened a "vs2012-x86 native tools command prompt" and just did exactly the same steps as i did to compile the 64bits version.

                          After a long time, in the nmake phase, I encountered the following error:

                          [code]Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 11.00.50727.1
                          Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

                              cd windows\ && ( if not exist Makefile C:\qt5\qt5_32\qtbase\bin\qmake C:
                          

                          \qt5\qt5_32\qtbase\src\plugins\platforms\windows\windows.pro -o Makefile ) && "C
                          :\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\VC\BIN\nmake.exe" -f Makefile

                          Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 11.00.50727.1
                          Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

                              "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\VC\BIN\nmake.exe" -
                          

                          f Makefile.Debug all

                          Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 11.00.50727.1
                          Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

                              echo 2 /* CREATEPROCESS_MANIFEST_RESOURCE_ID */ 24 /* RT_MANIFEST */ "..
                          

                          \..\..\..\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll.embed.manifest">........\plug
                          ins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll_manifest.rc
                          if not exist ........\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll del ........
                          \plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll.embed.manifest>NUL 2>&1
                          if exist ........\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll.embed.manifest copy
                          /Y ........\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll.embed.manifest ........\plugi
                          ns\platforms\qwindowsd.dll_manifest.bak
                          link /NOLOGO /DYNAMICBASE /NXCOMPAT /DEBUG /DLL /MANIFEST /MANIFESTFILE:
                          ........\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll.embed.manifest /OUT:........\plug
                          ins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll @C:\Users\Philippe\AppData\Local\Temp\nm8E9D.tmp
                          Creating library ........\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.lib and object ....
                          ....\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.exp
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _Accessible2_ProxyFileIn
                          fo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleAction_ProxyF
                          ileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleApplication_P
                          roxyFileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleComponent_Pro
                          xyFileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol AccessibleEditableText
                          ProxyFileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleHyperlink_Pro
                          xyFileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleHypertext_Pro
                          xyFileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleImage_ProxyFi
                          leInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleRelation_Prox
                          yFileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleTable_ProxyFi
                          leInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleTable2_ProxyF
                          ileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleTableCell_Pro
                          xyFileInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleText_ProxyFil
                          eInfo
                          dlldata.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _AccessibleValue_ProxyFi
                          leInfo
                          ........\plugins\platforms\qwindowsd.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 14 unresolved
                          externals
                          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0
                          \VC\BIN\link.EXE"' : return code '0x460'
                          Stop.
                          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0
                          \VC\BIN\nmake.exe"' : return code '0x2'
                          Stop.
                          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                          Stop.
                          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                          Stop.
                          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                          Stop.
                          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                          Stop.
                          NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                          Stop.[/code]

                          Any idea what is wrong with my setup?

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                            stephench77
                            wrote on 25 Mar 2013, 04:48 last edited by
                            #114

                            I am trying to build qt5 on windows. However, I am not even able retrieve the soure code successfully. The inital command "git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qt5.git qt5" completed successfully. But the next command "perl init-repository" failed with the following error information:

                            • git submodule init
                              0 [main] us 0 init_cheap: VirtualAlloc pointer is null, Win32 error 487
                              AllocationBase 0x0, BaseAddress 0x68560000, RegionSize 0x170000, State 0x10000
                              c:\program files (x86)\git\bin\sh.exe: *** Couldn't reserve space for cygwin's h
                              eap, Win32 error 0
                              git submodule init exited with status 256 at init-repository line 268.
                              Qt::InitRepository::exe('Qt::InitRepository=HASH(0x32f290)', 'git', 'sub
                              module', 'init') called at init-repository line 373
                              Qt::InitRepository::git_submodule_init('Qt::InitRepository=HASH(0x32f290
                              )') called at init-repository line 569
                              Qt::InitRepository::run('Qt::InitRepository=HASH(0x32f290)') called at i
                              nit-repository line 590

                            I am using msysgit (Git for Windows) 1.8.1.2, Active Perl 5.16.3 and Python 3.3.0.

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                              sierdzio
                              Moderators
                              wrote on 25 Mar 2013, 06:15 last edited by
                              #115

                              Run perl from cmd.exe, not Bash terminal.

                              (Z(:^

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                                stephench77
                                wrote on 25 Mar 2013, 06:36 last edited by
                                #116

                                I did run the command "perl init-repository" from cmd.exe directly.
                                [quote author="sierdzio" date="1364192137"]Run perl from cmd.exe, not Bash terminal.[/quote]

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                                  dasun
                                  wrote on 25 Mar 2013, 18:05 last edited by
                                  #117

                                  I'm trying to build source from the for new bug fix which critical for me.

                                  I'm getting following linking error:

                                  @ link /NOLOGO /DYNAMICBASE /NXCOMPAT /BASE:0x67000000 /DEBUG /DLL /VERSIO
                                  N:5.02 /MANIFEST /MANIFESTFILE:....\lib\Qt5Cored.lib.embed.manifest /OUT:....
                                  lib\Qt5Cored.lib @C:\Users\dasun\AppData\Local\Temp\nm9C85.tmp
                                  Creating library ....\lib\Qt5Cored.lib and object ....\lib\Qt5Cored.exp
                                  LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file '....\lib\Qt5Cored.lib'
                                  NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0
                                  \VC\BIN\link.EXE"' : return code '0x450'
                                  Stop.
                                  NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0
                                  \VC\BIN\nmake.exe"' : return code '0x2'
                                  Stop.
                                  NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                                  Stop.
                                  NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                                  Stop.
                                  NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cd' : return code '0x2'
                                  Stop.@

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                                    stephench77
                                    wrote on 25 Mar 2013, 18:08 last edited by
                                    #118

                                    I am building from Windows 7. I use the following configuration command:

                                    configure -developer-build -opensource -confirm-license -nomake examples -nomake tests -mp

                                    I see the following errors at the end of configuration output:

                                    Generating Visual Studio project files...
                                    Project WARNING: You should probably load(qt_build_config) first in bootstrap.pr
                                    o for QtBootstrap, as the latter also load()s qt_module.
                                    Project MESSAGE: Not doing so may lead to qt_module.prf overriding compiler/link
                                    er options in your .pro file.
                                    Project MESSAGE: Ignore this warning with CONFIG+=no_qt_module_warning if you kn
                                    ow what you are doing.
                                    Project ERROR: Project has no top-level .qmake.conf file.
                                    Qmake failed, return code 3

                                    Generating Makefiles...
                                    *** qtbase/configure exited with non-zero status.

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                                      anshulsolanki
                                      wrote on 5 Apr 2013, 16:06 last edited by
                                      #119

                                      I am getting following error
                                      "STL functionality check failed! Cannot build Qt with this STL library."

                                      when i run configure command i.e.
                                      ./configure -developer-build -xplatform android-g++ -android-ndk YOUR_NDK_DIR -android-sdk YOUR_SDK_DIR -nomake tests -nomake examples

                                      Exact dump

                                      • /home/ubuntu/qt5/qtbase/configure -developer-build -xplatform android-g++ -android-ndk /home/ubuntu/anshul/android-ndk-r8e -android-sdk /home/ubuntu/anshul/replicant-sdk_linux-x86 -nomake tests -nomake examples -confirm-license
                                        Which edition of Qt do you want to use ?

                                      Type 'c' if you want to use the Commercial Edition.
                                      Type 'o' if you want to use the Open Source Edition.

                                      o

                                      This is the Qt Open Source Edition.

                                      You are licensed to use this software under the terms of
                                      the Lesser GNU General Public License (LGPL) versions 2.1.

                                      You have already accepted the terms of the license.

                                      <srcbase> = /home/ubuntu/qt5/qtbase
                                      <outbase> = /home/ubuntu/qt5/qtbase
                                      Creating qmake...
                                      make: Nothing to be done for `first'.
                                      Running configuration tests...
                                      Warning: Disabling pkg-config since PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR is not set.
                                      Warning: Disabling pkg-config since PKG_CONFIG_SYSROOT_DIR is not set.

                                      Could not determine the target architecture!
                                      Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to see the final report.
                                      STL functionality check failed! Cannot build Qt with this STL library.
                                      Turn on verbose messaging (-v) to /home/ubuntu/qt5/qtbase/configure to see the final report.
                                      *** qtbase/configure exited with non-zero status.

                                      and i am referring this link for building
                                      http://qt-project.org/wiki/Qt5ForAndroidBuilding

                                      Please help

                                      -Anshul

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                                        PauloPina
                                        wrote on 7 Apr 2013, 18:33 last edited by
                                        #120

                                        Hello,

                                        I am having some problems compiling Qt 5.1 in MAC OSX. I've followed all the steps from here: http://qt-project.org/wiki/Building_Qt_5_from_Git ...

                                        But... when I called "make -j 4", after about one hour of compilling work, I've got this error:

                                        @make[3]: *** No rule to make target /Users/paulopina/PlexusDynamics/qt5/qtbase/lib/libQt5QmlDevTools.a', needed by /Users/paulopina/PlexusDynamics/qt5/qtbase/bin/qmlmin'. Stop.
                                        make[2]: *** [sub-qmlmin-make_first] Error 2
                                        make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
                                        make[3]: Nothing to be done for first'. make[3]: Nothing to be done for first'.
                                        make[3]: Nothing to be done for `first'.
                                        make[1]: *** [sub-tools-make_first] Error 2
                                        make: *** [module-qtdeclarative-make_first] Error 2@

                                        This it the return i've got at "./configure -developer-build -opensource -nomake examples -nomake tests":

                                        @Creating qmake...
                                        make: Nothing to be done for `first'.
                                        Running configuration tests...
                                        WARNING: Unable to find file .device.vars

                                        Build type: macx-clang
                                        Architecture: x86_64, features: mmx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3
                                        Host architecture: x86_64, features: mmx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3

                                        Build .................. libs tools
                                        Configuration .......... qpa largefile precompile_header sse2 sse3 ssse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 avx avx2 absolute_library_soname pcre warnings_are_errors minimal-config small-config medium-config large-config full-config build_all debug_and_release no-pkg-config coreservices accessibility opengl shared qpa reduce_exports getaddrinfo ipv6ifname getifaddrs png freetype system-zlib nis cups iconv openssl rpath corewlan concurrent audio-backend v8 v8snapshot release debug qt_framework private_tests
                                        Debug .................. yes (combined)
                                        Default Link ........... debug
                                        Force debug info ....... no
                                        C++11 support .......... no
                                        pkg-config ............. no
                                        Qt D-Bus module ........ no
                                        Qt Concurrent code ..... yes
                                        Qt GUI module .......... yes
                                        Qt Widgets module ...... yes
                                        JavaScriptCore JIT ..... To be decided by JavaScriptCore
                                        QML debugging .......... yes
                                        PCH support ............ yes
                                        SSE2/SSE3/SSSE3......... yes/yes/yes
                                        SSE4.1/SSE4.2........... yes/yes/yes
                                        AVX/AVX2................ yes/yes
                                        IPv6 ifname support .... yes
                                        getaddrinfo support .... yes
                                        getifaddrs support ..... yes
                                        Accessibility .......... yes
                                        NIS support ............ yes
                                        CUPS support ........... yes
                                        Iconv support .......... yes
                                        Glib support ........... no
                                        GStreamer support ...... no
                                        PulseAudio support ..... no
                                        Large File support ..... yes
                                        GIF support ............ plugin
                                        JPEG support ........... plugin (qt)
                                        PNG support ............ yes (qt)
                                        zlib support ........... system
                                        Session management ..... auto
                                        libudev support ........ no
                                        Use system proxies ..... no
                                        OpenGL support ......... yes (Desktop OpenGL)
                                        OpenVG support ......... no
                                        XShape support ......... auto
                                        XVideo support ......... auto
                                        XSync support .......... auto
                                        Xinerama support ....... runtime
                                        Xcursor support ........ runtime
                                        Xfixes support ......... runtime
                                        Xrandr support ......... runtime
                                        Xi support ............. runtime
                                        Xi2 support ............ auto
                                        MIT-SHM support ........ auto
                                        FontConfig support ..... no
                                        XKB support ............ auto
                                        GTK theme support ...... no
                                        PostgreSQL support ..... plugin
                                        ODBC support ........... plugin
                                        SQLite support ......... plugin (qt)
                                        OpenSSL support ........ yes (run-time)
                                        Alsa support ........... no
                                        CoreWlan support ....... yes
                                        libICU support ......... no
                                        PCRE support ........... qt
                                        Xcb support ............ no
                                        Xrender support ........ no
                                        EGLFS support .......... no
                                        DirectFB support ....... no
                                        LinuxFB support ........ no
                                        KMS support ............ no@

                                        Any one has an idea of how can I solve this?

                                        Thank you!

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                                          deus
                                          wrote on 9 Apr 2013, 13:30 last edited by
                                          #121

                                          [quote author="PauloPina" date="1365359586"]Hello,

                                          Thank you![/quote]

                                          Just head into "qtdeclarative\src\qmldevtools"
                                          and make a release and a debug before you proceed.

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