Qt Programming Language
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@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
I tried downloading Visual Studio Community 2015 from the link you mentioned, but it won't let me unless I join some program in order to access previous versions. What's up with that, I wonder?
Do you mean https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/ ? That's just Microsoft's way of encouraging people to use the latest version (2017). Are you willing to create an account to get Visual Studio 2015?
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
I'm reading the tutorials, and I'm searching for an important part of programming language that makes a program's accessibility features show up from the beginning, but it's not in any of the tutorials.
The tutorial is for learning the basics of C++. Accessibility features, tab stops, and verbal analytics are a lot more advanced, so they are not in that tutorial.
Please focus on learning the basics first, before you move on to advanced topics. This will take time: A few weeks, at the very least.
"Verbal Analytics".
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Does that parameter work in C++? If so, is that the same concept you were telling me about? I'm confused on this one!
No, I was talking about something much simplier called string manipulation. Verbal analytics is a sophisticated mathematical/statistical analysis technique. You don't need this to generate gender-specific text.
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@JKSH said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
I tried downloading Visual Studio Community 2015 from the link you mentioned, but it won't let me unless I join some program in order to access previous versions. What's up with that, I wonder?
Do you mean https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/ ? That's just Microsoft's way of encouraging people to use the latest version (2017). Are you willing to create an account to get Visual Studio 2015?
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
I'm reading the tutorials, and I'm searching for an important part of programming language that makes a program's accessibility features show up from the beginning, but it's not in any of the tutorials.
The tutorial is for learning the basics of C++. Accessibility features, tab stops, and verbal analytics are a lot more advanced, so they are not in that tutorial.
Please focus on learning the basics first, before you move on to advanced topics. This will take time: A few weeks, at the very least.
"Verbal Analytics".
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Does that parameter work in C++? If so, is that the same concept you were telling me about? I'm confused on this one!
No, I was talking about something much simplier called string manipulation. Verbal analytics is a sophisticated mathematical/statistical analysis technique. You don't need this to generate gender-specific text.
Is creating an account at that link something where I would have to give them any personally identifyable information like credit card numbers? If not, I'm absolutely willing to create an account to access older downloads.
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@Annabelle
It should not ask for anything like a credit card. It will probably ask for an existing account you have with MS, or create a new one. You will have to supply it with your email address, I would not expect anything more than that. -
@JonB said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle
It should not ask for anything like a credit card. It will probably ask for an existing account you have with MS, or create a new one. You will have to supply it with your email address, I would not expect anything more than that.Now that I've done that, how do I access the download of Visual Studio 2015?
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@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
@JonB said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle
It should not ask for anything like a credit card. It will probably ask for an existing account you have with MS, or create a new one. You will have to supply it with your email address, I would not expect anything more than that.Now that I've done that, how do I access the download of Visual Studio 2015?
Go to https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/ and click "Download" in the Visual Studio 2015 section.
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@JKSH said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
@JonB said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle
It should not ask for anything like a credit card. It will probably ask for an existing account you have with MS, or create a new one. You will have to supply it with your email address, I would not expect anything more than that.Now that I've done that, how do I access the download of Visual Studio 2015?
Go to https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/older-downloads/ and click "Download" in the Visual Studio 2015 section.
I tried that, but unfortunately it gave me the 2017 version instead. I wonder if there's a direct link to the 2015 version.
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@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
if you look lower down the page there is a link for downloading the 2015 version too.
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@kenchan said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
if you look lower down the page there is a link for downloading the 2015 version too.
I can't find it. My screenreader shows a link that says "Free Download", but it's the 2017 version.
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@Annabelle
Well I don't know what it looks like in a screen reader but there is a link called 'Expand All' when that is expanded there is a button to click for downloading.It will ask you for your Microsoft login details. You have to be a member of the Visual Studio Subscription site, you can sign up for free and get the free stuff after that.
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@kenchan said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle
Well I don't know what it looks like in a screen reader but there is a link called 'Expand All' when that is expanded there is a button to click for downloading.It will ask you for your Microsoft login details. You have to be a member of the Visual Studio Subscription site, you can sign up for free and get the free stuff after that.
I think they are only giving access to old stuff through this site.I did that, but still nothing.
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@Annabelle
Hi. We cannot say about screen-reader access, but I think the direct link for the VS2015 download ishttps://my.visualstudio.com/Downloads?q=visual studio 2015&wt.mc_id=o~msft~vscom~older-downloads
It will still make you log into your MS account to access it, but hopefully that route will work for you.
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@JonB said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle
Hi. We cannot say about screen-reader access, but I think the direct link for the VS2015 download ishttps://my.visualstudio.com/Downloads?q=visual studio 2015&wt.mc_id=o~msft~vscom~older-downloads
It will still make you log into your MS account to access it, but hopefully that route will work for you.
Now that I've got Visual Studio Community 2015 installed, what do I do next?
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@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
Now that I've got Visual Studio Community 2015 installed, what do I do next?
Great! Just to double-check: During installation, did you select the option for C++ development?
Your next step is to start making your way through the tutorials, starting from Chapter 0. Sections 0.1 to 0.5 provide introductory knowledge; section 0.6 "Installing an Integrated Development Environment" talks about installing Visual Studio (which you have already done); section 0.7 "Compiling your first program" is where the really important stuff begins. Make sure you follow the instructions carefully!
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@JKSH said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
Now that I've got Visual Studio Community 2015 installed, what do I do next?
Great! Just to double-check: During installation, did you select the option for C++ development?
Your next step is to start making your way through the tutorials, starting from Chapter 0. Sections 0.1 to 0.5 provide introductory knowledge; section 0.6 "Installing an Integrated Development Environment" talks about installing Visual Studio (which you have already done); section 0.7 "Compiling your first program" is where the really important stuff begins. Make sure you follow the instructions carefully!
It didn't give me that option in the initial installation. I had to run it again and press Enter on the "Modify" button, and then check the checkboxes next to the appropriate options for programming language components. The one I couldn't find was "C++ Development". I did, however, find "Visual C++". Is that the one you mean? Also, it installed, in addition to Visual Studio 2015, two programs with which I'm not familiar. Microsoft Silverlight, and Microsoft Expression. What do these programs do? Are they necessary components for running Visual Studio Community? If not, is there a way to safely uninstall them without taking away from Visual Studio Community? Also, this new installation has caused my machine to take a little more time between the Windows Logon screen and JAWS starting up. What's up with that, I wonder?
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Sorry for the late reply.
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
It didn't give me that option in the initial installation. I had to run it again and press Enter on the "Modify" button, and then check the checkboxes next to the appropriate options for programming language components. The one I couldn't find was "C++ Development". I did, however, find "Visual C++". Is that the one you mean?
Yes, that's the one I meant. Install "Visual C++" so that you can build C++ programs.
Also, it installed, in addition to Visual Studio 2015, two programs with which I'm not familiar. Microsoft Silverlight, and Microsoft Expression. What do these programs do? Are they necessary components for running Visual Studio Community?
Microsoft Silverlight is a technology to create rich interactive websites, similar to Adobe Flash. However, both Silverlight and Flash have fallen out of favour these days.
Microsoft Expression is a program to edit HTML documents.
Neither component is necessary to run Visual Studio Community.
If not, is there a way to safely uninstall them without taking away from Visual Studio Community?
If you click the "Modify" button again, are you able to uncheck the checkboxes for Silverlight and Expression?
Also, this new installation has caused my machine to take a little more time between the Windows Logon screen and JAWS starting up. What's up with that, I wonder?
I'm not sure. None of the Visual Studio components run at startup so they shouldn't have any impact on startup time.
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@JKSH said in Qt Programming Language:
Sorry for the late reply.
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
It didn't give me that option in the initial installation. I had to run it again and press Enter on the "Modify" button, and then check the checkboxes next to the appropriate options for programming language components. The one I couldn't find was "C++ Development". I did, however, find "Visual C++". Is that the one you mean?
Yes, that's the one I meant. Install "Visual C++" so that you can build C++ programs.
Also, it installed, in addition to Visual Studio 2015, two programs with which I'm not familiar. Microsoft Silverlight, and Microsoft Expression. What do these programs do? Are they necessary components for running Visual Studio Community?
Microsoft Silverlight is a technology to create rich interactive websites, similar to Adobe Flash. However, both Silverlight and Flash have fallen out of favour these days.
Microsoft Expression is a program to edit HTML documents.
Neither component is necessary to run Visual Studio Community.
If not, is there a way to safely uninstall them without taking away from Visual Studio Community?
If you click the "Modify" button again, are you able to uncheck the checkboxes for Silverlight and Expression?
Also, this new installation has caused my machine to take a little more time between the Windows Logon screen and JAWS starting up. What's up with that, I wonder?
I'm not sure. None of the Visual Studio components run at startup so they shouldn't have any impact on startup time.
Now that I've installed the Visual C++ programming language component, what do I do next?
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@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
Now that I've installed the Visual C++ programming language component, what do I do next?
The next thing to do is to follow the tutorial and learn C++.
Just to double-check: Are you willing to spend time and effort to learn programming? It will take you at least a few weeks to learn the basics of C++. After that, it will take you at least a few months to learn the various features you need and to produce the program that you've been describing.
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@JKSH said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
Now that I've installed the Visual C++ programming language component, what do I do next?
The next thing to do is to follow the tutorial and learn C++.
Just to double-check: Are you willing to spend time and effort to learn programming? It will take you at least a few weeks to learn the basics of C++. After that, it will take you at least a few months to learn the various features you need and to produce the program that you've been describing.
You ask if I'm willing to spend time and effort learning programming? The answer to that is a resounding "Yes!" I'm willing to learn anything, as long as I can take it one step at a time, and as long as there aren't too many graphics for my screenreader to have to jump over. So a few weeks to learn the basics, and a few months to learn the concepts you mention as far as "if" statements, variables, and string manipulation goes?
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@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
You ask if I'm willing to spend time and effort learning programming? The answer to that is a resounding "Yes!" I'm willing to learn anything, as long as I can take it one step at a time, and as long as there aren't too many graphics for my screenreader to have to jump over. So a few weeks to learn the basics, and a few months to learn the concepts you mention as far as "if" statements, variables, and string manipulation goes?
That's great! It is refreshing to see your enthusiasm for learning.
Concepts like variables and "if" statements are part of basic C++, so I think you should cover those within a few weeks. I would say string manipulation is intermediate-level. Let me know when you've finished learning the basics, and I'll be happy to teach you more about string manipulation.
GUIs, accessibility features, and building the applications are much more advanced -- these will take you a few months (at least) to understand.
Anyway, all the best with learning C++ through learncpp.com. As I mentioned before, work through all of chapter 0, all of chapter 1, section 2.1, and section 2.6. After that, search for the concepts I mentioned.
Feel free to ask here if something is unclear in the tutorial.
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@JKSH said in Qt Programming Language:
@Annabelle said in Qt Programming Language:
You ask if I'm willing to spend time and effort learning programming? The answer to that is a resounding "Yes!" I'm willing to learn anything, as long as I can take it one step at a time, and as long as there aren't too many graphics for my screenreader to have to jump over. So a few weeks to learn the basics, and a few months to learn the concepts you mention as far as "if" statements, variables, and string manipulation goes?
That's great! It is refreshing to see your enthusiasm for learning.
Concepts like variables and "if" statements are part of basic C++, so I think you should cover those within a few weeks. I would say string manipulation is intermediate-level. Let me know when you've finished learning the basics, and I'll be happy to teach you more about string manipulation.
GUIs, accessibility features, and building the applications are much more advanced -- these will take you a few months (at least) to understand.
Anyway, all the best with learning C++ through learncpp.com. As I mentioned before, work through all of chapter 0, all of chapter 1, section 2.1, and section 2.6. After that, search for the concepts I mentioned.
Feel free to ask here if something is unclear in the tutorial.
I tried compiling a Qt version of "Hello World" in Visual Studio, but it said there were a bunch of errors, despite the fact that I copied and pasted the code into a text document from the Qt Documentation. Then I pasted that code into Visual Studio's "Text Editor". On http://www.learncpp.com, there's a different way of printing the "Hello World" project, where the code has something called "cout", which I don't understand. What's the difference between these two codes? That is, the Qt code of "Hello World", and the C++ code of "Hello World"? I'm confused on this one!
