Qt and Nokia’s new strategy

mario · wrote on 14 Feb 2011, 21:37

Well, Intel (or someone else) could just hire the Trolls to keep doing development on the LGPL'd version of Qt, no need to buy anything from Nokia. Linux is my primary platform and I believe that Intel is doing better than ARM on Linux.

dguimard · wrote on 14 Feb 2011, 23:19

http://nokiaplanb.com/

ucomesdag · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 00:23

Would be a nice initiative...
[quote author="dguimard" date="1297725547"]http://nokiaplanb.com/[/quote]

CreMindES · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 09:26

Interesting plans, we will see... but I hope the two main R&D doesn't include the Troll's home :) And maybe smaller, but bigger than it mentioned, R&D places are good to have of there unique perspectives . :)

Franzk · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 09:39

I particularly liked the fact that Plan B doesn't wholly discard the WinPho option. From the start I had the feeling that Nokia might actually be needing the WinPho to get some market share in North America. What I don't understand though is that once again they're betting the entire company on one horse. If I were to bet on one horse, it would not have been a product/supplier with a bad reputation and track record in mobile environments. From that point of view Plan B makes much more sense to me.

But hey, I'm just a developer. I make complex systems for a living. What do I know? :P

CreMindES · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 09:46

Plan B must ship some WP7s, they have a contract... either they want to or not. But let's hope the bests.

andre · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 09:54

Personally, I don't give Plan B a big chance, but you never know. Sure, they will probably have to ship some WP devices, but that is also in the Plan B plans. There is always fine print to these contracts, so there may be a way out. Other phone suppliers have in the past.

Smar · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 10:10

Personally, I don’t think that now shipping or not shipping Windows phones would really matter to Qt at all.

I would welcome them to ship them at Europe too, given they can promise they’ll port Qt later to it. Otherwise I’d rather leave it to market areas that aren’t Nokia’s strong area.

Dropping Meego was something not wise from Nokia though, Qt-wise and strategically, now Nokia is again competing only with one edge.

john_god · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 10:38

This plan B seems to me the only way to Nokia recover the confidence of the people that are feeling betrayed (workers, developers and users), and I wish them all the best. The fall of the stocks since the anoucement of MS partership says all.

Zlatomir · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 11:19

This "plan B" doesn't seem to be related with Nokia.

What i can't understand is why Nokia is replacing their platform (Symbian) for which they have infrastructure: store, SDK's, full control over the decisions regarding the platform and a pretty big community (which has been moved once, or moving in progress, from Symbian C++ to Qt C++...) and then buy a platform from Microsoft.

Anyway Nokia said Symbian is "burning", but how this "burning" platform is still the leader in a market with other younger and greater platforms?

So leaving/retire the platform with 30% of the market and getting (please read buying) the one that has 3% is a brilliant idea... sarcasm off

Smar · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 11:21

Symbian is like Android; it’s popular since everyone uses it, but collapses under its own weight. Popularity and sell rates doesn’t make it better platform, unfortunately.

Zlatomir · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 11:34

2smar, we are talking here about marketing decision, so popularity and sell is what makes a great platform for the marketing department.

Algirdasss · wrote on 15 Feb 2011, 13:32

I'd like such plan to become reality ... Especially I'd like to see MeeGo platform becoming main OS for Nokia.
It was interesting to me where Nokia spent these billions for research ... Apple having less money managed to do it much better ... So maybe Nokia had management and efficiency problems but it's strategy was correct enough. Does anybody analyzed what problems caused such situation and does anybody tried to fix it? Sometimes I have doubts if Nokia problems truly were so serious. Maybe Elop has overblown its scale for easier motivation to start partnership with Microsoft. Microsoft needed some partner quickly because it was sitting with its WP7 in the a...s. WP7 is not ideal platform. I have read some reviews about it, its interesting but has many flaws that Microsoft is still fixing or promise to fix in the feature.

Franzk · wrote on 16 Feb 2011, 07:44

Plan B is discontinued.

dguimard · wrote on 16 Feb 2011, 14:54

http://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/update-intel
at least some light in the darkness that we are living since last friday

Franzk · wrote on 16 Feb 2011, 15:42

[quote author="dguimard" date="1297868041"]at least some light in the darkness that we are living since last friday[/quote]It can't be that bad. Your life doesn't depend on Nokia, does it?

dguimard · wrote on 16 Feb 2011, 15:46

it was related to the link , i appreciate Intel action.

therohan · wrote on 17 Feb 2011, 07:52

even i m hoping for Qt to be as strong as it is now in future.... may be Nokia would try and get Qt on windows.... lets see... bt Qt is strong and will remain so, Bt i am also excited about WP7.....
lets see what it brings for us developers... but i am pretty sure its gona work for nokia as well as developers... atleast we have choice to work on one more OS (windows)..... And moreover...Rich Green in his speech said that nokia has 75 million symbian devices in market and still to launch around 150 million more.... so Qt still has a long way to go........ I am positive about it....
[quote author="Alexandra" date="1297437240"]Okay, look. I know nobody is happy about this. I also know that you worry about where we're going. You may have bet your business on Qt. But so have we. I am confident enough that we will see a solution soon.[/quote]

andre · wrote on 17 Feb 2011, 08:00

[quote author="therohan" date="1297929120"]even i m hoping for Qt to be as strong as it is now in future.... may be Nokia would try and get Qt on windows.... lets see... bt Qt is strong and will remain so, Bt i am also excited about WP7.....
lets see what it brings for us developers... but i am pretty sure its gona work for nokia as well as developers... atleast we have choice to work on one more OS (windows)..... And moreover...Rich Green in his speech said that nokia has 75 million symbian devices in market and still to launch around 150 million more.... so Qt still has a long way to go........ I am positive about it....
[/quote]

Off topic: could you please fix your use use of punctuation and capitalize the first letter of every sentence? I find the text above very hard to read. Ellipsis (...) have their use, but not like you do above.

therohan · wrote on 17 Feb 2011, 09:02

Yea i think so too and totally agree with u..... with 150million symbian devices more to be launched by Nokia, i am pretty sure that Qt's future is not dark and we should stick to developing for it as well as start taking WP7 seriously and think of developing for it too......
well the futyure is unseen bt if we wish, its not going to be dark with WP7 in hand..... :)
[quote author="Milot Shala" date="1297704869"]
[quote author="Andre" date="1297699907"]Question that is just coming up in my mind:
Does this change in direction mean that bugreports & wishes in Jira that have been closed because focus has shifted to the mobile development will be re-evaluated? It seems mobile is not that important anymore after all...[/quote]

It will be important, there are people still writing Symbian apps because there are lots of Symbian users out there, to the 75 million Symbian devices there will be shipping 150M more devices and these needs new and updating older apps, and of course I think all the bugreports and wishes will be added where appropriate.[/quote]