Modern App Packaging

SGaist

Hi and welcome to devnet,

Might be a silly question but did you read through the windeployqt and macdeployqt documentation ?
These pages already covers quite a lot of the things you are mentioning.

SimonSchroeder

There is a Qt Installer Framework that could be used with all operating systems. However, I didn't figure out yet how to force running the installer as root on Linux. We actually use different ways on Windows (NSIS Installer), macOS (dmg), and Linux (Qt Installer Framework). But, for us this is done by the CI/CD and not as part of the regular build script.

If you want to go with CMake, isn't there also CPack?

As I'm not a CMake expert and if there is no specific way, you can certainly conditionally (dependent on the OS) execute deploy scripts.

BTW, we've landed on AppImages for Linux to create portable executables. If you want I can share how the couple of steps we do. We had to use both linuxdeploy and linuxdeployqt to get it working properly with AppImages.

Paul Colby

There's lots of way to do it, for exampling using Qt Installer Framework, as @SimonSchroeder suggested.

For my open source projects, I do something very similar to your diagram, except instead of producing a Windows *.exe installer, I produce a "portable app" - which is a single archive (you can just unzip it), containing everything the app needs to runs - all the libraries, etc, which are installed via windeployqt. If you want to use something like Inno, it would be just one more step.

Using one of my open source projects as an example, the steps are roughly as follows:

Linux

install linuxdeploy, and linuxdeploy-plugin-qt.
tell cmake how to produce an AppImage using linuxdeploy
configure and build with cmake
run tests, of course ;)
build an AppImage via cmake

macOS

Windows

add custom "portable" targets to CMakefileLists.txt, so cmake knows how to copy the required binaries, resources, and run windeployqt for my setup.
configure and build with cmake
run tests, of course ;)
package portable apps via cmake - this step uses windeployqt.
I don't do this, but you could run Inno Setup to package the files from the portable apps in the previous step.

Of course, using Qt Install Framework would be great too, but is a very different approach - ie producing installers, as opposed to self-contains AppImage/dmg/Portable App files. There's not right or wrong - just whatever suits your scenario/s.

Cheers.

MarkoProg

@SGaist said in Modern App Packaging:

Hi and welcome to devnet,

Might be a silly question but did you read through the windeployqt and macdeployqt documentation ?
These pages already covers quite a lot of the things you are mentioning.

I'm more interested in hearing about developers' real-world experiences than just links. Of course I've read that documentation!

@Paul-Colby said in Modern App Packaging:

There's lots of way to do it, for exampling using Qt Installer Framework, as @SimonSchroeder suggested.
Cheers.

Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for—a detailed description of your experience. What compiler do you use when developing with Qt? Your approach of calling windeployqt directly from CMake is interesting.

Paul Colby

@MarkoProg said in Modern App Packaging:

Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for

You're very welcome :)

What compiler do you use when developing with Qt?

Locally, I just use the OS-provided versions of GCC and Clang on the latest LTS (work) and non-LTS (personal) Ubuntu. And occasionally the current Clang, and MSVC on macOS and Windows respectively (especially when CI alerts me to issues on those platforms).

On GitHub Workflows, I use the current GitHub-provided versions of Clang, GCC, and MSVC - the actual versions depend on the GitHub runner, for example currently GitHub's Windows runners provide MSVC 19, Clang 17, and MinGW 13 - and I use all three, for x86, x86-64 and ARM64 builds, except where not supported by Qt. Whereas the Ubuntu runners use the versions provided by Ubuntu LTS, which are typically older.

You an see the compilers / toolchains in the GitHub Workflows build.yaml file, specifically:

And the actual versions that end up being found (by CMake) and thus used, is in the output of the "Build w/o coverage instrumentation" steps, like:

-- CMake version is 3.31.6
-- CMake build type is Release
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 13.1.0

Cheers.

JKSH

@Paul-Colby said in Modern App Packaging:

add custom "portable" targets to CMakefileLists.txt, so cmake knows how to copy the required binaries, resources, and run windeployqt for my setup.

Could this part be replaced by the official qt_generate_deploy_app_script() command? https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qt-generate-deploy-app-script.html

Paul Colby

@JKSH said in Modern App Packaging:

Could this part be replaced by the official qt_generate_deploy_app_script() command?

Absolutely! If you only need/want to support Qt 6.3+ 🙂

Some of my projects are still supporting Qt 5.x, and 6.2, so I haven't adopted qt_generate_deploy_app_script() yet, nor a few other nice things that Qt6+ has added. I will sometime 🤞(yes, I know Qt 5.x is soooo old 😅)

SimonSchroeder

@Paul-Colby said in Modern App Packaging:

Using one of my open source projects as an example, the steps are roughly as follows:

That is a great overview. I would upvote more than once if I could!

@Paul-Colby said in Modern App Packaging:

except instead of producing a Windows *.exe installer, I produce a "portable app" - which is a single archive (you can just unzip it), containing everything the app needs to runs

For years we had problems with DLLs on Windows (which was before I got to work at this company and before they/we used Qt). The problem is when users want to switch out the executable, but developers might have slightly incompatible Qt versions on their machines. That is one big reason why we chose to compile Qt statically ourselves (and also using static Windows runtime). With 3rd party libraries it is sometimes hard to convince them to link against the static Windows runtime as well, but it is certainly worth it. The main software is just a single executable without any DLL dependencies. We do need some config files in specific directories. These we just put into the exectuable as well and check on startup if they exist and copy them to the right folder if necessary. For some users a portable app inside a ZIP file is still too complicated because they wouldn't know where to put it. I'm still playing with the idea to not just copy config files to the correct folder, but also to have an install button inside the app itself which will automatically copy it into "Program Files" directory, put it into the start menu and maybe register file extensions. This is so much easier with macOS or with AppImages/xdg on Linux. I believe this is how apps should work on Windows as well–no extra installer. I wish there would be something like AppImages for Windows as well (then I would be willing to use DLLs again).

@Paul-Colby said in Modern App Packaging:

Locally, I just use the OS-provided versions of GCC and Clang on the latest LTS (work) and non-LTS (personal) Ubuntu.

Isn't there some requirement for linuxdeploy that you cannot use the most recent version of the OS (in order to provide the best backwards compatility across most distros)? Or is there a specific switch to override this? I couldn't see anything from your linked CMake files. Or were you just lucky so far?

sales99

mani mani, but apps dont deploy, waste of time

SimonSchroeder

@sales99 said in Modern App Packaging:

mani mani, but apps dont deploy, waste of time

So, what do you think windeployqt, linuxdeployqt, and macdeployqt are doing?