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  • J JonB
    23 Mar 2022, 20:50

    @Kent-Dorfman
    Lovely post. Are you having a good day today?

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    Kent-Dorfman
    wrote on 23 Mar 2022, 20:53 last edited by
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    @JonB A lovely year. I've lost the faith and am at a stage where any self-respecting company would show be the door, based on my state of disgruntlement...but they won't, so unless someone offers me a better gig I will just become more and more angry...which is not a state I want to exist in. If I were only concerned about a paycheck then I would stay where I'm at until they run the company into the ground, but I'm one of those rare old school hackers who cannot stand "kobayashi-maru" exercises.

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    • J JonB
      23 Mar 2022, 20:50

      @Kent-Dorfman
      Lovely post. Are you having a good day today?

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      macfanpl
      wrote on 12 Apr 2022, 11:08 last edited by
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      @JonB said in old hacker...low tolerance:

      @Kent-Dorfman
      Lovely post. Are you having a good day today?

      No need for dacing DCXZ.........

      Many ( if not most ) coworking space owners triesa to do the following:

      • lure people ( usually novices ) into their shitty quality space,
      • STEAL their money by applying many shady tactics.

      Although @Kent-Dorfman post can be taken as rant, many points he merntioned still stands.

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        Chris Kawa
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        wrote on 13 Apr 2022, 00:14 last edited by
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        Well, I'm down to only two bosses currently, management retreated from the spectacularly failed open space office experiment and I have admin privileges on my beefy stationary work PC. Not so hot on the other points though.
        My faith in the industry is quite shaken too, but I guess there's some light in the tunnel shining here and there. Here's hoping it won't turn out to be a train.

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          SAbadshah
          wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 17:53 last edited by
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          I've lost hope and have reached a point where, given my dissatisfaction, any self-respecting company would show me the door. However, they won't, so unless someone offers me a better job, I will only grow angrier—a state I do not want to be in. I would stay in my current position until they run the business out of business if all that mattered to me was my paycheck, but I'm one of the few remaining old-school hackers who cannot stand "kobayashi-maru" exercises.

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          • S SAbadshah
            16 Nov 2022, 17:53

            I've lost hope and have reached a point where, given my dissatisfaction, any self-respecting company would show me the door. However, they won't, so unless someone offers me a better job, I will only grow angrier—a state I do not want to be in. I would stay in my current position until they run the business out of business if all that mattered to me was my paycheck, but I'm one of the few remaining old-school hackers who cannot stand "kobayashi-maru" exercises.

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            Anonymous_Banned275
            wrote on 16 Nov 2022, 19:24 last edited by
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            @SAbadshah said in old hacker...low tolerance:

            kobayashi-maru" exercises

            I often wonder if it is a time to "update " "Inmates are running the asylum" ...

            In my days of "gainful employment" I had very few jobs which did not end by "jumping the ship" before it sunk.
            Mostly because "bean counters AKA marketing" took over the "mismanagement" of the outfit.
            Cheers

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            • A Anonymous_Banned275
              16 Nov 2022, 19:24

              @SAbadshah said in old hacker...low tolerance:

              kobayashi-maru" exercises

              I often wonder if it is a time to "update " "Inmates are running the asylum" ...

              In my days of "gainful employment" I had very few jobs which did not end by "jumping the ship" before it sunk.
              Mostly because "bean counters AKA marketing" took over the "mismanagement" of the outfit.
              Cheers

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              Kent-Dorfman
              wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 01:34 last edited by
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              @AnneRanch said in old hacker...low tolerance:

              I often wonder if it is a time to "update " "Inmates are running the asylum" ...

              If it were only that simple. At this point I'm convinced of a multi-generational alien conspiracy designed to dumb down the race to the point where they can take over without firing a shot. LOL

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              • K Kent-Dorfman
                29 Nov 2022, 01:34

                @AnneRanch said in old hacker...low tolerance:

                I often wonder if it is a time to "update " "Inmates are running the asylum" ...

                If it were only that simple. At this point I'm convinced of a multi-generational alien conspiracy designed to dumb down the race to the point where they can take over without firing a shot. LOL

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                Chris Kawa
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                wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 01:48 last edited by
                #11

                @Kent-Dorfman said:

                At this point I'm convinced of a multi-generational alien conspiracy

                I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

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                  mzimmers
                  wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 17:00 last edited by
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                  I'm convinced of a multi-generational alien Democrat conspiracy

                  Fixed your typo for you...

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                  • M mzimmers
                    30 Nov 2022, 17:00

                    I'm convinced of a multi-generational alien Democrat conspiracy

                    Fixed your typo for you...

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                    Kent-Dorfman
                    wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 17:26 last edited by
                    #13

                    @mzimmers said in old hacker...low tolerance:

                    'm convinced of a multi-generational alien Democrat conspiracy
                    Fixed your typo for you...

                    There is a distinction?

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                    • K Kent-Dorfman
                      29 Nov 2022, 01:34

                      @AnneRanch said in old hacker...low tolerance:

                      I often wonder if it is a time to "update " "Inmates are running the asylum" ...

                      If it were only that simple. At this point I'm convinced of a multi-generational alien conspiracy designed to dumb down the race to the point where they can take over without firing a shot. LOL

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                      JoeCFD
                      wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 18:39 last edited by
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                      @Kent-Dorfman It is time for Hollywood to make another Tom Cruise movie to kick out the aliens.

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                      • J JoeCFD
                        30 Nov 2022, 18:39

                        @Kent-Dorfman It is time for Hollywood to make another Tom Cruise movie to kick out the aliens.

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                        Chris Kawa
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                        wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 18:46 last edited by
                        #15

                        @JoeCFD You know that Tom Cruise is part of a cult that believes multiple ancient aliens live in every cell of everyone's body, right? ;)

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                          30 Nov 2022, 18:46

                          @JoeCFD You know that Tom Cruise is part of a cult that believes multiple ancient aliens live in every cell of everyone's body, right? ;)

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                          JoeCFD
                          wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 18:51 last edited by JoeCFD
                          #16

                          @Chris-Kawa Good to know. Thanks for your info. I was kidding. But I do share what @Kent-Dorfman wrote.

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                          • J JoeCFD
                            30 Nov 2022, 18:51

                            @Chris-Kawa Good to know. Thanks for your info. I was kidding. But I do share what @Kent-Dorfman wrote.

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                            mzimmers
                            wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 18:56 last edited by
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                            @JoeCFD outsourcing is OK as long as you don't give it to democrats aliens.

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                            • M mzimmers
                              30 Nov 2022, 18:56

                              @JoeCFD outsourcing is OK as long as you don't give it to democrats aliens.

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                              JoeCFD
                              wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 18:57 last edited by JoeCFD
                              #18

                              @mzimmers I read someone's story. He trained someone in a foreign country and was then laid off. This is insane. A manager should never do that.

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                              • J JoeCFD
                                30 Nov 2022, 18:57

                                @mzimmers I read someone's story. He trained someone in a foreign country and was then laid off. This is insane. A manager should never do that.

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                                fcarney
                                wrote on 30 Nov 2022, 19:00 last edited by
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                                @JoeCFD I know a company that trained people in a foreign country as partners. The people there spun off a competing company using their tech and all the sales from the partnership dried up. You can probably guess which country that is.

                                C++ is a perfectly valid school of magic.

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                                  TomZ
                                  wrote on 1 Dec 2022, 08:26 last edited by
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                                  Its actually nice to read this thread because the "software dev" profession has been so overrun and the 'if its not solved on stackoverflow, its not possible to fix" mindset, that its depressing. So, reading that actually good devs are hanging on, laying low, that is positive as that means that the profession isn't forever doomed :-)

                                  Nearly a decade ago I joined a cpp company in Oslo which focused on financials, trading and that kind of stuff. I learned about that stuff as a matter of course and am forever changed. In short, the financial system we use is in great part responsible for a lot of problems in the world today. Understanding basic economics has been insightful, to say the least. (mandatory reading).

                                  As systems like the financial system extract more and more value out of the hardworking people, the companies are having a harder time actually making a profit. First to go is longer term planning and investment in tech. If it doesn't produce results the next week, its not a priority.

                                  Then the forever dropping interest rate (well, they went up slightly recently, but remember in your youth you'd get nearly 10%) means that companies that are really not making a profit can get loans to keep them afloat longer than they really should be.
                                  This looks like its not a problem at first, less people fired, right? But good and honest companies are fighting those non-profitable companies for good people, so it actually is really a boon to the entire ecosystem if the bad companies go bankrupt. It allows a new one to start.

                                  There is light, though. I'm optimistic about possibilities and ways forward. Society is darn close to rock-bottom as a whole. It can only go up from here.

                                  In the mean-time I'm happy working on open source software on my own terms, building fun stuff for real use. Though figuring out Android for the first time is harder than I expected.

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                                  • TomZT TomZ
                                    1 Dec 2022, 08:26

                                    Its actually nice to read this thread because the "software dev" profession has been so overrun and the 'if its not solved on stackoverflow, its not possible to fix" mindset, that its depressing. So, reading that actually good devs are hanging on, laying low, that is positive as that means that the profession isn't forever doomed :-)

                                    Nearly a decade ago I joined a cpp company in Oslo which focused on financials, trading and that kind of stuff. I learned about that stuff as a matter of course and am forever changed. In short, the financial system we use is in great part responsible for a lot of problems in the world today. Understanding basic economics has been insightful, to say the least. (mandatory reading).

                                    As systems like the financial system extract more and more value out of the hardworking people, the companies are having a harder time actually making a profit. First to go is longer term planning and investment in tech. If it doesn't produce results the next week, its not a priority.

                                    Then the forever dropping interest rate (well, they went up slightly recently, but remember in your youth you'd get nearly 10%) means that companies that are really not making a profit can get loans to keep them afloat longer than they really should be.
                                    This looks like its not a problem at first, less people fired, right? But good and honest companies are fighting those non-profitable companies for good people, so it actually is really a boon to the entire ecosystem if the bad companies go bankrupt. It allows a new one to start.

                                    There is light, though. I'm optimistic about possibilities and ways forward. Society is darn close to rock-bottom as a whole. It can only go up from here.

                                    In the mean-time I'm happy working on open source software on my own terms, building fun stuff for real use. Though figuring out Android for the first time is harder than I expected.

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                                    JonB
                                    wrote on 1 Dec 2022, 09:04 last edited by
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                                    @TomZ said in old hacker...low tolerance:

                                    Society is darn close to rock-bottom as a whole. It can only go up from here.

                                    LOL. We shall see.... :(

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                                    • TomZT TomZ
                                      1 Dec 2022, 08:26

                                      Its actually nice to read this thread because the "software dev" profession has been so overrun and the 'if its not solved on stackoverflow, its not possible to fix" mindset, that its depressing. So, reading that actually good devs are hanging on, laying low, that is positive as that means that the profession isn't forever doomed :-)

                                      Nearly a decade ago I joined a cpp company in Oslo which focused on financials, trading and that kind of stuff. I learned about that stuff as a matter of course and am forever changed. In short, the financial system we use is in great part responsible for a lot of problems in the world today. Understanding basic economics has been insightful, to say the least. (mandatory reading).

                                      As systems like the financial system extract more and more value out of the hardworking people, the companies are having a harder time actually making a profit. First to go is longer term planning and investment in tech. If it doesn't produce results the next week, its not a priority.

                                      Then the forever dropping interest rate (well, they went up slightly recently, but remember in your youth you'd get nearly 10%) means that companies that are really not making a profit can get loans to keep them afloat longer than they really should be.
                                      This looks like its not a problem at first, less people fired, right? But good and honest companies are fighting those non-profitable companies for good people, so it actually is really a boon to the entire ecosystem if the bad companies go bankrupt. It allows a new one to start.

                                      There is light, though. I'm optimistic about possibilities and ways forward. Society is darn close to rock-bottom as a whole. It can only go up from here.

                                      In the mean-time I'm happy working on open source software on my own terms, building fun stuff for real use. Though figuring out Android for the first time is harder than I expected.

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                                      Chris Kawa
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                                      wrote on 1 Dec 2022, 13:26 last edited by
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                                      @TomZ said:

                                      Society is darn close to rock-bottom as a whole. It can only go up from here.

                                      Every few years someone says that and every time there's someone with a shovel to prove them wrong.

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                                        wrote on 1 Dec 2022, 13:38 last edited by
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                                        I have low expectations for society, and despite that, I'm getting disappointed on a regular basis.


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                                        • J.HilkJ J.Hilk
                                          1 Dec 2022, 13:38

                                          I have low expectations for society, and despite that, I'm getting disappointed on a regular basis.

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                                          Chris Kawa
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                                          wrote on 1 Dec 2022, 14:17 last edited by
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                                          I've just read yet another article about how C++ needs to die because pointers, and no-code/low-code is the next big thing. Basically "computers too hard, need make businessmen move pretty pictures instead. We'll call it programming from now on"...

                                          Depressed

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