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How to write entire QVector to a binary file?

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  • C CJha
    17 Nov 2020, 11:43

    @JonB I agree that a simple C++ array would be faster and easier as that is the format in which data is generated in the buffer from the acquisition device.

    However, if I write the data to a file in the same thread (in the same callback function where the data is deposited in the buffer from the acquisition device or in a different function), then since writing takes a long time it blocks the entire thread, this (once in a while) blocks the callback function which is called each time the required number of data samples is generated by the acquisition device resulting in an error.

    To solve this problem, I write data to a binary file in a different thread. Now, if I pass the address of the same buffer in which data is deposited then it defeats the purpose of having multiple threads as I am accessing the same buffer in which data is deposited from the acquisition device just from a different thread instead of the main one. To overcome this I write the incoming data from the acquisition device's buffer to a QVector<double> then send this vector over a Qt::QueuedConnection to my "Writer" thread and I write it there. I am not so good with C++ arrays and so I am not quite confident on how to achieve this without involving QVector in the process. If you have any idea on how can I simplify this process I will be very grateful :)

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    JonB
    wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 11:54 last edited by
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    @CJha
    My simple answer would be: mutexes. How that compares to queued signals I do not know; I am not suggesting mutexes, only answering the question.

    QVector<double> then send this vector over a Qt::QueuedConnection

    Wouldn't mind just seeing how you send it, do you use const QVector<> &?

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    • J jsulm
      17 Nov 2020, 11:44

      @CJha said in How to write entire QVector to a binary file?:

      then since writing takes a long time it blocks the entire thread

      You could do double-buffering with two arrays :-)

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      CJha
      wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 12:40 last edited by
      #36

      @jsulm I already use double buffering i.e. I assign twice the amount of memory for the buffer than needed. But I cannot use two separate buffers as these buffers are controlled by the C based specialized functions which are specific to the acquisition device. All I can do is assign the size of the memory to the buffer. The program flow is as follows:

      • Assign buffer size
      • Start acquisition
      • C based function puts data in the buffer and alerts my application through a callback function
      • I retrieve data from the buffer to a C array (I cannot retrieve directly to a vector as this step is also controlled by device-specific C function which only accepts a pointer to a C array)
      • Now I can do whatever I want with acquired data

      So, there is not much choice in terms of the buffer.

      Regarding the use of the C array that I use to get data out of the buffer, it is generated on the heap and deleted at the end of the callback function in which I get the data from the buffer.

      I could use two different vectors to store data and achieve so-called 'double buffering' from my application's point of view, and I have tried that. But in this case as well the thread is blocked for the time period of writing data to a file.

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      • J JonB
        17 Nov 2020, 11:54

        @CJha
        My simple answer would be: mutexes. How that compares to queued signals I do not know; I am not suggesting mutexes, only answering the question.

        QVector<double> then send this vector over a Qt::QueuedConnection

        Wouldn't mind just seeing how you send it, do you use const QVector<> &?

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        wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 12:55 last edited by
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        @JonB Yeah I could use mutexes, but I prefer Queued Connection as there is just one QVector to be sent to a different thread. I do not use const QVector<double>& because I want to depend on Qt's implicit sharing i.e. if the QVector<double> is changed while I am still using the previous QVector to write data in my binary file then it would not affect my "Writer" thread. If I would use const QVector<double>& then it would refer to the original QVector in the main thread and then I would have to use QMutex to protect read and write operations. This is my function in the Writer class which inherits QObject and is run in a different thread:

        void Writer::writeData(QVector<double> vec)
        {
            ++sweepCount_; // Increament the count to keep track of number of times data vector is written
        
            if(isBin_){ // If user selects file type as .bin
                for(int ii = 0; ii < vec.length(); ++ii)
                    binOut_ << vec[ii]; // binOut_ is a QDataStrem, assigned to a file when the user clicks on Start button
            }
            else{ // if the user selects file type as .csv
                if(vec.length() > 1){
                    outStream_ << vec[0];
                    for(int ii = 1; ii < vec.length(); ++ii)
                        outStream_ << seperator_ << vec[ii]; // seperator_ = ',' or ';' depending on QLocale
                    outStream_ << '\n';
                }
            }
        }
        
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          SGaist
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          wrote on 17 Nov 2020, 18:25 last edited by
          #38

          Hi,

          In what format do you get the data in the callback ?

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          • C CJha
            17 Nov 2020, 12:55

            @JonB Yeah I could use mutexes, but I prefer Queued Connection as there is just one QVector to be sent to a different thread. I do not use const QVector<double>& because I want to depend on Qt's implicit sharing i.e. if the QVector<double> is changed while I am still using the previous QVector to write data in my binary file then it would not affect my "Writer" thread. If I would use const QVector<double>& then it would refer to the original QVector in the main thread and then I would have to use QMutex to protect read and write operations. This is my function in the Writer class which inherits QObject and is run in a different thread:

            void Writer::writeData(QVector<double> vec)
            {
                ++sweepCount_; // Increament the count to keep track of number of times data vector is written
            
                if(isBin_){ // If user selects file type as .bin
                    for(int ii = 0; ii < vec.length(); ++ii)
                        binOut_ << vec[ii]; // binOut_ is a QDataStrem, assigned to a file when the user clicks on Start button
                }
                else{ // if the user selects file type as .csv
                    if(vec.length() > 1){
                        outStream_ << vec[0];
                        for(int ii = 1; ii < vec.length(); ++ii)
                            outStream_ << seperator_ << vec[ii]; // seperator_ = ',' or ';' depending on QLocale
                        outStream_ << '\n';
                    }
                }
            }
            
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            wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 06:20 last edited by J.Hilk
            #39

            @CJha said in How to write entire QVector to a binary file?:

            I do not use const QVector<double>& because I want to depend on Qt's implicit sharing i.e. if the QVector<double> is changed while I am still using the previous QVector to write data in my binary file then it would not affect my "Writer" thread

            So that you know, when passing your QVector through Qt::QueuedConnection - which is the default and correct one across threads - your QVector will be copied auto automatically, there will be no share until write. There will be a copy inside your thread


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            • S SGaist
              17 Nov 2020, 18:25

              Hi,

              In what format do you get the data in the callback ?

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              CJha
              wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 08:20 last edited by
              #40

              @SGaist Hi, It is double. The data is placed in a C Array from where I retrieve it.

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              • J J.Hilk
                18 Nov 2020, 06:20

                @CJha said in How to write entire QVector to a binary file?:

                I do not use const QVector<double>& because I want to depend on Qt's implicit sharing i.e. if the QVector<double> is changed while I am still using the previous QVector to write data in my binary file then it would not affect my "Writer" thread

                So that you know, when passing your QVector through Qt::QueuedConnection - which is the default and correct one across threads - your QVector will be copied auto automatically, there will be no share until write. There will be a copy inside your thread

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                CJha
                wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 08:25 last edited by
                #41

                @J-Hilk Thanks, one thing which I am not sure about: What would happen if I use const QVector<double>& instead of QVector<double>, will it still copy the data if the connection type is Qt:QueuedConnection or will it just copy the reference for the vector?

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                • C CJha
                  18 Nov 2020, 08:25

                  @J-Hilk Thanks, one thing which I am not sure about: What would happen if I use const QVector<double>& instead of QVector<double>, will it still copy the data if the connection type is Qt:QueuedConnection or will it just copy the reference for the vector?

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                  wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 08:33 last edited by KroMignon
                  #42

                  @CJha said in How to write entire QVector to a binary file?:

                  will it still copy the data if the connection type is Qt:QueuedConnection or will it just copy the reference for the vector?

                  In short: Yes they will be copied.
                  For more details take a look at this => https://www.embeddeduse.com/2013/06/29/copied-or-not-copied-arguments-signals-slots/

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                  C 1 Reply Last reply 18 Nov 2020, 08:35
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                  • KroMignonK KroMignon
                    18 Nov 2020, 08:33

                    @CJha said in How to write entire QVector to a binary file?:

                    will it still copy the data if the connection type is Qt:QueuedConnection or will it just copy the reference for the vector?

                    In short: Yes they will be copied.
                    For more details take a look at this => https://www.embeddeduse.com/2013/06/29/copied-or-not-copied-arguments-signals-slots/

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                    CJha
                    wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 08:35 last edited by
                    #43

                    @KroMignon Thanks :)

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                    • C CJha
                      18 Nov 2020, 08:35

                      @KroMignon Thanks :)

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                      wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 09:29 last edited by
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                      @CJha
                      According to @KroMignon's link

                      The conclusion from the above results is that we should pass arguments to signals and slots by const reference and not by value. This advice is true for both direct and queued connections. Even if the sender of the signal and the receiver of the slot are in different threads, we should still pass arguments by const reference.

                      If you have both signal & slot declared with QVector<double> vec and you change both to have const QVector<double>&, you reduce 3 copies to 1.

                      Having said that: I do get lost as to what gets copied, aren't we only talking about the QVector structure and not the data it references??

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                      • J JonB
                        18 Nov 2020, 09:29

                        @CJha
                        According to @KroMignon's link

                        The conclusion from the above results is that we should pass arguments to signals and slots by const reference and not by value. This advice is true for both direct and queued connections. Even if the sender of the signal and the receiver of the slot are in different threads, we should still pass arguments by const reference.

                        If you have both signal & slot declared with QVector<double> vec and you change both to have const QVector<double>&, you reduce 3 copies to 1.

                        Having said that: I do get lost as to what gets copied, aren't we only talking about the QVector structure and not the data it references??

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                        CJha
                        wrote on 18 Nov 2020, 13:05 last edited by
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                        @JonB If it's a copy then I assume it is always going to be the data because the structure is not that significant in terms of memory usage, but I am not sure about it either.

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                        • C CJha
                          18 Nov 2020, 13:05

                          @JonB If it's a copy then I assume it is always going to be the data because the structure is not that significant in terms of memory usage, but I am not sure about it either.

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                          wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 14:34 last edited by
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                          @CJha said in How to write entire QVector to a binary file?:

                          If it's a copy then I assume it is always going to be the data

                          No, because Qt containers use copy-on-write. See https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/implicit-sharing.html

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