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Slow performance and large memory usage with QTableView in Qt 5.15

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    Christian Ehrlicher
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    wrote on 16 Aug 2020, 11:46 last edited by
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    I also don't have problems with your example with Qt5.15.0 / MinGW64 on Windows 7. Please make sure that you have a clean build dir, maybe even create a new clean project to test it.

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      16 Aug 2020, 11:46

      I also don't have problems with your example with Qt5.15.0 / MinGW64 on Windows 7. Please make sure that you have a clean build dir, maybe even create a new clean project to test it.

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      KaoN
      wrote on 16 Aug 2020, 12:02 last edited by
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      @Christian-Ehrlicher hmm..that's wierd, I did a clean project and using both MSVC and MinGW64 , same bad performance on Windows 10 1909, fine with 5.9.9

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        KaoN
        wrote on 16 Aug 2020, 15:24 last edited by
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        After rebooting my pc.. everything works fine....
        still cant get why...

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          16 Aug 2020, 15:24

          After rebooting my pc.. everything works fine....
          still cant get why...

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          Christian Ehrlicher
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          wrote on 16 Aug 2020, 15:28 last edited by
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          @KaoN Then please mark this topic as solved

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            16 Aug 2020, 15:28

            @KaoN Then please mark this topic as solved

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            KaoN
            wrote on 16 Aug 2020, 15:36 last edited by
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            @Christian-Ehrlicher done, but can't figure out what made that 'bug' happen

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              16 Aug 2020, 15:36

              @Christian-Ehrlicher done, but can't figure out what made that 'bug' happen

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              JonB
              wrote on 16 Aug 2020, 17:42 last edited by
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              @KaoN Windows

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                wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 00:07 last edited by
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                After hibernating my desktop for a night, it slows again.. and...reboot does not work anymore..TT

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                  wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 00:20 last edited by
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                  I deploy two version of the testapp to another laptop, win10 20H2, 5.9 perform good and 5.15 with no luck

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                    17 Aug 2020, 00:20

                    I deploy two version of the testapp to another laptop, win10 20H2, 5.9 perform good and 5.15 with no luck

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                    wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 01:37 last edited by
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                    @KaoN said in Slow performance and large memory usage with QTableView in Qt 5.15:

                    After hibernating my desktop for a night, it slows again.. and...reboot does not work anymore..TT

                    Are you running out of RAM? I'm guessing that the slowdown happens when your PC is busy transferring data between your physical RAM and your Pagefile. That is a very slow process.

                    Run Resource Monitor (https://www.thewindowsclub.com/use-resource-monitor-windows-10 ) and see what is using up all your memory and your disk I/O.

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                      17 Aug 2020, 01:37

                      @KaoN said in Slow performance and large memory usage with QTableView in Qt 5.15:

                      After hibernating my desktop for a night, it slows again.. and...reboot does not work anymore..TT

                      Are you running out of RAM? I'm guessing that the slowdown happens when your PC is busy transferring data between your physical RAM and your Pagefile. That is a very slow process.

                      Run Resource Monitor (https://www.thewindowsclub.com/use-resource-monitor-windows-10 ) and see what is using up all your memory and your disk I/O.

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                      wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 04:09 last edited by KaoN
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                      @JKSH Thank you for your reply, but my desktop has 64GB memory, I don't think it cause the problem.
                      The question is with 5.9.9, it works fine, with only 10MB memory consumption.

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                        17 Aug 2020, 04:09

                        @JKSH Thank you for your reply, but my desktop has 64GB memory, I don't think it cause the problem.
                        The question is with 5.9.9, it works fine, with only 10MB memory consumption.

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                        wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 04:19 last edited by
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                        @KaoN said in Slow performance and large memory usage with QTableView in Qt 5.15:

                        The question is with 5.9.9, it works fine, with only 10MB memory consumption.

                        It's possible that the implementation of QTableView changed between Qt 5.9 and Qt 5.15 which provides better performance in some use-cases but worse performance in other use-cases.

                        Do you have Qt 5.12 LTS installed? How does it perform with that version?

                        You can post your minimal test code and provide instructions on how to cause the slowdown to https://bugreports.qt.io/. However, it is still not clear to me whether it is a bug/regression or not.

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                          17 Aug 2020, 04:19

                          @KaoN said in Slow performance and large memory usage with QTableView in Qt 5.15:

                          The question is with 5.9.9, it works fine, with only 10MB memory consumption.

                          It's possible that the implementation of QTableView changed between Qt 5.9 and Qt 5.15 which provides better performance in some use-cases but worse performance in other use-cases.

                          Do you have Qt 5.12 LTS installed? How does it perform with that version?

                          You can post your minimal test code and provide instructions on how to cause the slowdown to https://bugreports.qt.io/. However, it is still not clear to me whether it is a bug/regression or not.

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                          wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 04:23 last edited by
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                          @JKSH Yes, I tried 5.12.7, slow too.
                          Bug is reported with minimal code: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-86069?filter=16824

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                            17 Aug 2020, 04:19

                            @KaoN said in Slow performance and large memory usage with QTableView in Qt 5.15:

                            The question is with 5.9.9, it works fine, with only 10MB memory consumption.

                            It's possible that the implementation of QTableView changed between Qt 5.9 and Qt 5.15 which provides better performance in some use-cases but worse performance in other use-cases.

                            Do you have Qt 5.12 LTS installed? How does it perform with that version?

                            You can post your minimal test code and provide instructions on how to cause the slowdown to https://bugreports.qt.io/. However, it is still not clear to me whether it is a bug/regression or not.

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                            KaoN
                            wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 04:25 last edited by
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                            @JKSH The weird thing is that I did get good performance after I reboot my desktop, but it did not always working..actually, it only works once.

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                              Christian Ehrlicher
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                              wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 04:59 last edited by
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                              I'm pretty sure your Qt example has nothing to do with this.

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                                17 Aug 2020, 04:25

                                @JKSH The weird thing is that I did get good performance after I reboot my desktop, but it did not always working..actually, it only works once.

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                                wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 10:55 last edited by
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                                @KaoN have you done a full hard shutdown or only the soft one that comes when opening the start menu ?

                                hit win + r
                                
                                then type:
                                shutdown /s /f /t 0
                                

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                                  17 Aug 2020, 10:55

                                  @KaoN have you done a full hard shutdown or only the soft one that comes when opening the start menu ?

                                  hit win + r
                                  
                                  then type:
                                  shutdown /s /f /t 0
                                  
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                                  KaoN
                                  wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 14:48 last edited by
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                                  @J-Hilk It did help to get everything work well again...but could you plz explain a bit, is it a system bug?

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                                    17 Aug 2020, 14:48

                                    @J-Hilk It did help to get everything work well again...but could you plz explain a bit, is it a system bug?

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                                    wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 15:44 last edited by J.Hilk
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                                    @KaoN Microsoft made this change a while ago when the UWP, Windows for mobile/tablet was a thing and windows required faster reboots/boots/wakeups

                                    As a result all modern Windows system have a "soft reboot /shutdown" these days

                                    Usually you don't notice this, until some day, fundamental stuff starts behaving strangely.

                                    I for once managed it (with Qt no less) to get my bluetooth driver in an undefined state, so nothing, bluetooth worked anymore, and a reboot did not fix it, because the normal reboot does not reinitialize and clear everything. That's how I learned about it.

                                    Your case, smells like a bug hard to tell if Qt is at fault or not.
                                    Have you tried updating your windows ? My Bluetooth story fixed itself with a windows update.

                                    And have you tried it on a 2nd, different windows pc ?

                                    If yes, and behavior is the same (in both cases) than it may be a Qt issue


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                                      17 Aug 2020, 15:44

                                      @KaoN Microsoft made this change a while ago when the UWP, Windows for mobile/tablet was a thing and windows required faster reboots/boots/wakeups

                                      As a result all modern Windows system have a "soft reboot /shutdown" these days

                                      Usually you don't notice this, until some day, fundamental stuff starts behaving strangely.

                                      I for once managed it (with Qt no less) to get my bluetooth driver in an undefined state, so nothing, bluetooth worked anymore, and a reboot did not fix it, because the normal reboot does not reinitialize and clear everything. That's how I learned about it.

                                      Your case, smells like a bug hard to tell if Qt is at fault or not.
                                      Have you tried updating your windows ? My Bluetooth story fixed itself with a windows update.

                                      And have you tried it on a 2nd, different windows pc ?

                                      If yes, and behavior is the same (in both cases) than it may be a Qt issue

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                                      wrote on 19 Aug 2020, 00:08 last edited by KaoN
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                                      @J-Hilk Thanks for the information. Generally I find one case that if the application run through windows remote desktop, it will slow, even it was good before, and it will not recovery until hard reboot.
                                      But another my laptop perform badly what ever I reboot or hard shutdown.
                                      Only 5.9 works perfectly on every situation.

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                                        19 Aug 2020, 00:08

                                        @J-Hilk Thanks for the information. Generally I find one case that if the application run through windows remote desktop, it will slow, even it was good before, and it will not recovery until hard reboot.
                                        But another my laptop perform badly what ever I reboot or hard shutdown.
                                        Only 5.9 works perfectly on every situation.

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                                        wrote on 19 Aug 2020, 05:17 last edited by
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                                        @KaoN
                                        mmh the last Idea I have, would be updating your graphics drivers, those are most often an issue. After that, bring it to https://bugreports.qt.io


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