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  • mzimmersM Offline
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    mzimmers
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    #8

    I know little about Qt's user base or its market share, but I'm fairly sure that it's never been a dominant player. There are a few possible reasons: the company mission has morphed a couple times over the years; there's a steep learning curve, and then there's the licensing (heh).

    But the point is, it's OK for Qt to be a relatively small player...as long as it's the best in its class in what it does. Look at Ferrari - market share < 1%, but is anyone worried about them disappearing? TQC seems determined to focus on that (admittedly small) user base that needs legitimately killer apps. As long as they can 1) identify those industries and 2) serve them well, there's really no reason to think that Qt can't outlive all of us.

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      sierdzio
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      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      It's a very good point :-)

      (Z(:^

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      • Christian EhrlicherC Offline
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        Christian Ehrlicher
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        See also https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1926661#graph

        Qt Online Installer direct download: https://download.qt.io/official_releases/online_installers/
        Visit the Qt Academy at https://academy.qt.io/catalog

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        • Kent-DorfmanK Offline
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          Kent-Dorfman
          wrote on last edited by Kent-Dorfman
          #11

          There may or may not be correlation. I myself try to avoid forums where a preisthood assigns worthiness value to your questions, such as stack-exchange does.

          The dystopian literature that served as a warning in my youth has become an instruction manual in my elder years.

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          • Kent-DorfmanK Kent-Dorfman

            There may or may not be correlation. I myself try to avoid forums where a preisthood assigns worthiness value to your questions, such as stack-exchange does.

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            SimonSchroeder
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            #12

            @Kent-Dorfman Yes, StackOverflow is really annoying to use (unless you are just reading answers without being logged in). I have seen discussions that were missing crucial details, but I'm not allowed to comment or answer. A lot of knowledge goes missing over there. The worst thing is when you are trying to upvote an answer and StackOverflow just tells you that they have registered your upvote, but they are not counting it because I don't have enough points. It just needed a few interactions like this where I don't normally even upvote answers anymore. From what I've heard the StackOverflow community is also a little bit more toxic.

            Non of this can be said about this Qt forum. So, I hope there are not too many hurdles when using this forum (occasionally users are complaining that their posts are categorized as spam or that they are throttled in their number of answers).

            I have seen interpretations of the graph mentioned by @Christian-Ehrlicher and there seem to be the following facts: 1) StackOverflow usage went down before AI. 2) There was a small peak during COVID, but the downward trend quickly continued. 3) AI only slightly accelerated the downward trend. This means the downfall of StackOverflow is not primarily because of AI (you really cannot give AI too much credit over there).

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              inam
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              #13

              Qt forums are quieter mainly because AI provides quick answers, licensing has become restrictive, and younger developers prefer Flutter, React Native, or web apps. Qt remains strong in niche industries, and initiatives like Qt Academy could help, but casual forum activity will likely stay low.

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              • I inam

                Qt forums are quieter mainly because AI provides quick answers, licensing has become restrictive, and younger developers prefer Flutter, React Native, or web apps. Qt remains strong in niche industries, and initiatives like Qt Academy could help, but casual forum activity will likely stay low.

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                SimonSchroeder
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                @inam said in decline of Qtforums:

                licensing has become restrictive

                The open source license has always basically been the same. And the Qt company has always tried to scare people into buying the commercial license. I'm not sure if anybody is driven away by changes in the commercial licenses.

                @inam said in decline of Qtforums:

                and younger developers prefer Flutter, React Native, or web apps

                This would only be relevant if these technologies are stealing people away from C++. However, C++ is still growing: https://herbsutter.com/2025/12/ . Maybe there is a shift in regular desktop apps away from C++ (I don't know).

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                  inam
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  Qt forums are quieter because AI gives fast answers, licensing feels restrictive, and younger developers favor Flutter, React Native, or web apps. Qt remains strong in niche industries, and initiatives like Qt Academy can help, but casual forum activity will likely stay low.

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                    #16

                    and because of AI posts like this ^

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                    • I inam

                      Qt forums are quieter because AI gives fast answers, licensing feels restrictive, and younger developers favor Flutter, React Native, or web apps. Qt remains strong in niche industries, and initiatives like Qt Academy can help, but casual forum activity will likely stay low.

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                      SimonSchroeder
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                      @inam said in decline of Qtforums:

                      Qt forums are quieter because AI gives fast answers, licensing feels restrictive, and younger developers favor Flutter, React Native, or web apps. Qt remains strong in niche industries, and initiatives like Qt Academy can help, but casual forum activity will likely stay low.

                      About a month ago you wrote the exact same thing with just a handful of words changed. If you don't have anything new to contribute, you should stay quiet. And if you are really a bot, I'd like you banned on the forum.

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                        SimonSchroeder
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        Since we started talking about this, I now even have fewer new posts in my inbox. Now, there is almost nothing new. Can anybody else confirm that over the past two months the number of posts has decreased even further?

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                        • Kent-DorfmanK Offline
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                          Kent-Dorfman
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          I log on every few days and see virtually nothing new in any of my frequented subforums.

                          The dystopian literature that served as a warning in my youth has become an instruction manual in my elder years.

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                            Kent-Dorfman
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            It's sad. I prefer forums where technical excellence is the main focus, and the inevitable "virtual community social experiment" is quickly put back in the closet where it belongs...and my other lurking spot (freebsd forums) just got hacked so I cannot give my bountiful opinions there now. LOL

                            The dystopian literature that served as a warning in my youth has become an instruction manual in my elder years.

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                            • mzimmersM Offline
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                              mzimmers
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                              #21

                              I too miss the traffic, but maybe it's not really a sign of the forum declining, but rather morphing. Let's face it: for some tasks, an AI agent is at least as good as any advice found here, plus it's much faster. So yeah, that kind of traffic is going to drop off.

                              BUT:

                              Members of this forum have much more to add than just their ability to write/solve algorithms, or serve as a document lookup. Over the years, many of my questions have been subjective, and the answers benefitted from the real-world experience of more senior Qt-ers. AI can't replace that.

                              So yeah, there'll be less traffic, but what remains is still quite valuable.

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                                Perhaps the outsourced anti spam Akismet has an upgraded algo (AI powered?) :p

                                https://forum.qt.io/topic/158678/can-t-reply-to-a-post-because-my-comment-gets-flagged-as-spam

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                                  #23

                                  Did you see this (via Hacker News) https://blog.codinghorror.com/if-we-do-not-stop-to-help-each-other-what-do-we-become/
                                  It speaks about Stack Overflow but it applies equally well to the Qt Forums.

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                                  • mzimmersM Offline
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                                    IMO it applies MUCH more to the Qt Forums than SO. This forum is populated by knowledgable people who want to help others. SO is populated by teenage computer nerd misfits who take perverse pleasure in negrating and flagging posts without providing explanations.

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                                    • hskoglundH hskoglund

                                      Did you see this (via Hacker News) https://blog.codinghorror.com/if-we-do-not-stop-to-help-each-other-what-do-we-become/
                                      It speaks about Stack Overflow but it applies equally well to the Qt Forums.

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                                      SGaist
                                      Lifetime Qt Champion
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                                      @hskoglund said in decline of Qtforums:

                                      Did you see this (via Hacker News) https://blog.codinghorror.com/if-we-do-not-stop-to-help-each-other-what-do-we-become/
                                      It speaks about Stack Overflow but it applies equally well to the Qt Forums.

                                      Did not but it does make sense.

                                      Interested in AI ? www.idiap.ch
                                      Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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                                      • Nils SjobergN Offline
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                                        Nils Sjoberg
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                                        #26

                                        What matters is the niche community that sustains this place—
                                        a few dozen people who genuinely care.

                                        It’s sad; AI is indeed rendering us obsolete.

                                        "What's up, Doc?"

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                                        • mzimmersM mzimmers

                                          IMO it applies MUCH more to the Qt Forums than SO. This forum is populated by knowledgable people who want to help others. SO is populated by teenage computer nerd misfits who take perverse pleasure in negrating and flagging posts without providing explanations.

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                                          Nils Sjoberg
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                                          @mzimmers said in decline of Qtforums:

                                          מאוכלס בבני נוער חנוני מחשבים שגרים בפח של שלילת פוסטים וסימון אותם מבלי לספק הסברים.

                                          Hey, that’s not nice; you’re insulting me as a bored, nerdy teenager.

                                          "What's up, Doc?"

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