Project Elf shipments on their way
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No, this is not our problem!
If i ahve to paid only 1 € to my spedition i refuse the spedition. Because the packed is a free and i and the devnet are seriuos people! There are many assholes people that buy some 't-shirt' in other country without paid the taxes and receive correctly the packed.
For this reason i not paid anything![quote author="chetankjain" date="1295004345"][quote author="stuk" date="1295003606"]I think nobody have to paid anything! this is a free gift not a buy![/quote]
but tell that to customs, they are a different animal altogether ! still this is a too good a deal in my opinion :P[/quote]
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Seems like soon this whole project Elf thing will cost more in time dealing with the shipping and handling than the worth of the prizes :(
I guess that's the benefit of handing out prizes like this at an event like the Dev Days: people can just stick them their luggage and nobody asks questions... -
[quote author="Andre" date="1295008374"]
I guess that's the benefit of handing out prizes like this at an event like the Dev Days: people can just stick them their luggage and nobody asks questions...[/quote]Indeed. The only question is: how can we reach people who cannot attend those events? Suggestions welcome. ;)
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For me the spedition is correct. But this is the the real cause because many site that create a contest limit that only for their country.
For me this is bad, internation shipment is correct, after this spedition, we know that in italy t-shirt have some rules, in Russian batteries have some rules...ecc.
Maybe in a future contest, should be necessary add some document that specific the spedition is a gift, the t-shirt,the batteris ecc...[quote author="Andre" date="1295008374"]Seems like soon this whole project Elf thing will cost more in time dealing with the shipping and handling than the worth of the prizes :(
I guess that's the benefit of handing out prizes like this at an event like the Dev Days: people can just stick them their luggage and nobody asks questions...[/quote] -
[quote author="Alexandra" date="1295008568"][quote author="Andre" date="1295008374"]
I guess that's the benefit of handing out prizes like this at an event like the Dev Days: people can just stick them their luggage and nobody asks questions...[/quote]Indeed. The only question is: how can we reach people who cannot attend those events? Suggestions welcome. ;)[/quote]
I suppose main problem is that different delivery companies in different countries vary in quality quite a lot. Russia is exception with its corruption based policy, but seems like even European countries have serious problems with custom handling and stuff...
When I got my N900 from Nokia, the delivery company called me to ask my data so that they can deal with the customs instead of me. So there everything worked correctly :)
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[quote author="Alexandra" date="1295007929"]
I should have stated this more clearly probably. None of you should have been asked to pay any kind of fees or taxes to receive the package. I keep telling the shipment companies we use that EVERYTHING is supposed to be billed to our account.[/quote]Woops. Well, TNT called me yesterday, and they told me I have to pay the VAT. It surprised me a little bit, because I stated that I don't even know all the things that are in the package besides the phone, and that I don't know how much the phone costs.
But since I think that for prizes, lottery, etc., you have to pay VAT (at least in Spain), I accepted. Anyway, TNT has not called me since yesterday morning, and I don't have any notice of them passing by my door. :-( I hope I have news from them this afternoon.
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[quote author="Alexandra" date="1295008568"][quote author="Andre" date="1295008374"]
I guess that's the benefit of handing out prizes like this at an event like the Dev Days: people can just stick them their luggage and nobody asks questions...[/quote]Indeed. The only question is: how can we reach people who cannot attend those events? Suggestions welcome. ;)[/quote]
Uhm... instead of a cell phone, free attendance+flights for DevDays? :-)
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[quote author="Alexandra" date="1295007929"]Gnah!
I should have stated this more clearly probably. None of you should have been asked to pay any kind of fees or taxes to receive the package. I keep telling the shipment companies we use that EVERYTHING is supposed to be billed to our account. It goes wrong repeatedly though.
[/quote]100% right. I've asked TNT to mail me a copy of the packing list, and on the 2nd page there is a nice list including
- what's inside the package;
- the items' overall value (in EUR);
- the fact that the shipment is "Delivery Duty Paid" (see "here":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterm and "here":http://incoterms.atspace.com/incoterms2000/seafreight/ddp.html ).
So... WHY IN THE WORLD are they asking the "buyers" (i.e. the receivers) the contents or to pay money for clearing customs? Sigh...
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Today, is 15-1-2011.
I have not received the shipment, according to the tracking number ,I might receive it at 17-1-2011 (monday).
I am from India, I live in small city in India, that is why it takes long time to reach from Oslo( Norway) to Bhavnagar(India).
One question for chetankjain and Qtk, I need your help. (Because you both are from India, If I am not wrong).
Did you paid some money to custom officer ?
If, Yes then what amount ?
And is it legal payment or to get the shipment we have to pay ?Thanks,
Rahul -
It's very odd, I have not been contacted by anyone nor do I have a tracking number.
We don't have to pay any tax in my country as long as the item is:
- Under $1000
or - Declared as a gift
Every international ebay seller with items over $1000 always declare them as a gift and it gets through no troubles.
- Under $1000
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Wow I got it I got it I got it .... after all these days expecting I will get call from related to custom things but No call no email and it was at my door step yesterday. Thank you Elf it is great gift for me .
Best of luck to others who are still waiting....
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As I wrote earlier I have received the package, but only after I have paid customs fee and VAT. When they called me and sent me the consignment note I told them that it is clearly stated on it that sender pays and moreover it is a gift package so I am really suprised if I have to pay. They insisted that I have to pay custom fee as it come from Norway (outside of EU).
Now I plan to call them to get reimbursement (not only as a matter of principle but it was also significant amount) as I understand from above (as Alexandra wrote) that I was right and the original plan was that the sender pays all related costs.
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I continue dealing with customs and people of TNT, now finally my package is "Out for delivery " but, to a wrong direction, someone change the delivery address, but in TNT they don't know anything about it, today I talk with TNT and they will try to stop the shipment to the wrong address. Hope tomorrow they can solve all these problems to finally receive my gift. :(
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After following with TNT guys for the consignment for about a week. They finally agreed they have lost the consignment :(
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[quote author="qtrahul" date="1295070918"]Today, is 15-1-2011.
I have not received the shipment, according to the tracking number ,I might receive it at 17-1-2011 (monday).
I am from India, I live in small city in India, that is why it takes long time to reach from Oslo( Norway) to Bhavnagar(India).
One question for chetankjain and Qtk, I need your help. (Because you both are from India, If I am not wrong).
Did you paid some money to custom officer ?
If, Yes then what amount ?
And is it legal payment or to get the shipment we have to pay ?Thanks,
Rahul[/quote]
I have not received it. It got lost in transition - Never managed to cross Liege Euro Hub. I am not aware of TNT shipment and custom fees. Usually if its all customs duty paid I only have to pay 4% Octroi charges. This amount is not collected by DHL guys from the sender, so we would have to pay it. Not sure about TNT guys.
I think for you Octroi won't be there. Did you pay for your N8 sent from Nokia via DHL. Procedures should be similar.
