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  • A ambershark

    @Annabelle No you will have to install Qt. You don't need to install the Creator part of Qt, but if you do it won't hurt. You can disable the install of Qt Creator as an advanced part of the install.

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    @ambershark said in Qt Programming Language:

    @Annabelle No you will have to install Qt. You don't need to install the Creator part of Qt, but if you do it won't hurt. You can disable the install of Qt Creator as an advanced part of the install.

    I tried that, but even the installer can't be fully accessed with JAWS or NVDA. Not even the built-in Microsoft Narrator that comes with Windows 7 can access that checkbox you're talking about. I've put in an Email message to the Qt Creator team, and unfortunately they haven't sent me an answer yet.

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      @tekojo maybe you can use your magic powers to ping people at Qt Company? See the post by @Annabelle above.

      (Z(:^

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      • sierdzioS sierdzio

        @tekojo maybe you can use your magic powers to ping people at Qt Company? See the post by @Annabelle above.

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        @sierdzio said in Qt Programming Language:

        @tekojo maybe you can use your magic powers to ping people at Qt Company? See the post by @Annabelle above.

        I'm confused! Who's Tekojo?

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          SGaist
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          He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

          Interested in AI ? www.idiap.ch
          Please read the Qt Code of Conduct - https://forum.qt.io/topic/113070/qt-code-of-conduct

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          • A Annabelle

            @ambershark said in Qt Programming Language:

            @Annabelle No you will have to install Qt. You don't need to install the Creator part of Qt, but if you do it won't hurt. You can disable the install of Qt Creator as an advanced part of the install.

            I tried that, but even the installer can't be fully accessed with JAWS or NVDA. Not even the built-in Microsoft Narrator that comes with Windows 7 can access that checkbox you're talking about. I've put in an Email message to the Qt Creator team, and unfortunately they haven't sent me an answer yet.

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            @Annabelle It won't hurt to just do the default install with Qt Creator. You'll still get Qt and the command line tools like Qmake using the default install. So I wouldn't worry about not being able to access that checkbox.

            Would be a nice thing to have fixed for the future though.

            My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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              @ambershark Is it possible we could write Morse code aka keyboard and just tab through the boxes on the installer and select what she needs by pressing keys?

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              • S Sunfluxgames

                @ambershark Is it possible we could write Morse code aka keyboard and just tab through the boxes on the installer and select what she needs by pressing keys?

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                @Sunfluxgames You wouldn't really have to write anything.. someone could just run the installer and figure out the exact keypresses she needs to get to the box she wants to uncheck and then list them here. If she's careful she can do it without a screen reader.

                Also having a friend help install it would work too.

                But again, it's not necessary at all to uncheck qt creator. I usually let it install Qt Creator and I pretty much never use it. I can spare the 200mb or whatever it is on my hard drive though. :)

                My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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                • SGaistS SGaist

                  He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

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                  @SGaist said in Qt Programming Language:

                  He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

                  I've got Qt Creator on my machine, and unfortunately I'm not able to create widgets without a mouse. I wonder, are there any keyboard equivalents to mouse clicks for creating widgets and wizard pages?

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                  • A Annabelle

                    @SGaist said in Qt Programming Language:

                    He's the community manager but currently pretty busy with the Qt Contributor Summit as well as Qt World Summit.

                    I've got Qt Creator on my machine, and unfortunately I'm not able to create widgets without a mouse. I wonder, are there any keyboard equivalents to mouse clicks for creating widgets and wizard pages?

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                    @Annabelle Absolutely.. I do all my widgets in code. I almost never use the designer to create my forms/widgets.

                    I.e. if you want a label and text entry field you could do:

                    QWidget *w = new QWidget();
                    w->resize(600,400);
                    QHBoxLayout *box = new QHBoxLayout();
                    box->addWidget(new QLabel("Name"));
                    box->addWidget(new QTextEdit());
                    w->setLayout(box);
                    w->show();
                    

                    My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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                    • A ambershark

                      @Annabelle Absolutely.. I do all my widgets in code. I almost never use the designer to create my forms/widgets.

                      I.e. if you want a label and text entry field you could do:

                      QWidget *w = new QWidget();
                      w->resize(600,400);
                      QHBoxLayout *box = new QHBoxLayout();
                      box->addWidget(new QLabel("Name"));
                      box->addWidget(new QTextEdit());
                      w->setLayout(box);
                      w->show();
                      
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                      Annabelle
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                      @ambershark said in Qt Programming Language:

                      @Annabelle Absolutely.. I do all my widgets in code. I almost never use the designer to create my forms/widgets.

                      I.e. if you want a label and text entry field you could do:

                      QWidget *w = new QWidget();
                      w->resize(600,400);
                      QHBoxLayout *box = new QHBoxLayout();
                      box->addWidget(new QLabel("Name"));
                      box->addWidget(new QTextEdit());
                      w->setLayout(box);
                      w->show();
                      

                      Do you have any remote access software where you could log on to my computer and show me what you mean? For example, ITeleport? By keyboard shortcuts, I mean something like:
                      "Create New Widget" (Alt+W)
                      "Set Layout" (Control+Shift+L)
                      "Add Widget" (Alt+A)
                      "Show/Hide" (Control+Shift+H)
                      "Resize" (Control+R)

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                        @Annabelle You wouldn't need shortcuts to create anything.

                        In notepad++ you would create a class that can create dynamic widgets with you passing arguments for size and name in the function. All the designer lets us do is make it easier to drag and drop widgets into place while building code for us.

                        In your case you going to build your application through C++ and .h files.

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                        • S Sunfluxgames

                          @Annabelle You wouldn't need shortcuts to create anything.

                          In notepad++ you would create a class that can create dynamic widgets with you passing arguments for size and name in the function. All the designer lets us do is make it easier to drag and drop widgets into place while building code for us.

                          In your case you going to build your application through C++ and .h files.

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                          @Sunfluxgames said in Qt Programming Language:

                          @Annabelle You wouldn't need shortcuts to create anything.

                          In notepad++ you would create a class that can create dynamic widgets with you passing arguments for size and name in the function. All the designer lets us do is make it easier to drag and drop widgets into place while building code for us.

                          In your case you going to build your application through C++ and .h files.

                          I'm still a bit confused, because I want to try the Qt Designer, but I seem to be left in the dust as to how I would have access to the command to create, add, delete, and show/hide widgets without keyboard shortcuts. Since I have 0% vision, this is why I use a screenreader and keyboard shortcuts. I wonder if any of the Qt Creator administrators could help with making the program more screenreader friendly. Image-based icons are a screenreader's weak point. text-based icons and menus with detailed descriptions are what is accessible to both sighted and blind individuals alike.

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                            @Annabelle You should really take ambershark's advice. Code all your widgets in notepad++ and use the command line to complie your project into a .exe

                            Then have someone with vision look over your project to make sure it looks the way you think. Even with the basics understanding of C++ your project is very simple to do.

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                            • S Sunfluxgames

                              @Annabelle You should really take ambershark's advice. Code all your widgets in notepad++ and use the command line to complie your project into a .exe

                              Then have someone with vision look over your project to make sure it looks the way you think. Even with the basics understanding of C++ your project is very simple to do.

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                              @Sunfluxgames said in Qt Programming Language:

                              @Annabelle You should really take ambershark's advice. Code all your widgets in notepad++ and use the command line to complie your project into a .exe

                              Then have someone with vision look over your project to make sure it looks the way you think. Even with the basics understanding of C++ your project is very simple to do.

                              I tried the code:

                              qmake ceremonyscriptgenerator.pro
                              make
                              

                              but it gives me the error message that "qmake is not a valid internal or external command or operable program". This is even after Qt Creator and all of its components are completely installed on my machine. Perhaps there's something I'm doing wrong? Maybe I could ask my friend, Markus Johnson (yes, that's "Markus" with a K, not a C), if he could try to set up some mouse movement scripts for Qt Designer with Axife Mouse Recorder (http://www.axife.com).

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                                Hi
                                It cannot find qmake. you must use full path to it
                                like
                                C:\Qt\5.9.1\msvc2015_64\bin\qmake.exe
                                but yours will something with mingw and not msvc2015_64

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                                • sierdzioS sierdzio

                                  You don't need Qt Creator. Qt itself is enough, because qmake is part of it. If cmd complaints it can't find qmake it's probably because it is not in the PATH environment variable. I have not used Qt on Windows for a long time, but if nothing's hanged, you can probably run a Qt-provided command line which has the tools properly set up.

                                  Alternatively, with your current command line, you can point it directly to where qmake is located, like this:

                                  c:\path\to\where\qt\is\bin\qmake.exe file.pro
                                  

                                  Oh, right. Possibly you need to type in "qmake.exe" instead of just "qmake" on Windows.

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                                  Allanis
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                                  Ok, so you have installed Qt again in full I assume. And you are back to the very same error you had before when you used:

                                  qmake ceremonyscriptgenerator.pro
                                  make
                                  

                                  But remember, you already got an answer to solve this by @sierdzio :

                                  @sierdzio said in Qt Programming Language:

                                  Alternatively, with your current command line, you can point it directly to where qmake is located, like this:

                                  c:\path\to\where\qt\is\bin\qmake.exe file.pro
                                  

                                  Oh, right. Possibly you need to type in "qmake.exe" instead of just "qmake" on Windows.

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                                  • AllanisA Allanis

                                    Ok, so you have installed Qt again in full I assume. And you are back to the very same error you had before when you used:

                                    qmake ceremonyscriptgenerator.pro
                                    make
                                    

                                    But remember, you already got an answer to solve this by @sierdzio :

                                    @sierdzio said in Qt Programming Language:

                                    Alternatively, with your current command line, you can point it directly to where qmake is located, like this:

                                    c:\path\to\where\qt\is\bin\qmake.exe file.pro
                                    

                                    Oh, right. Possibly you need to type in "qmake.exe" instead of just "qmake" on Windows.

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                                    Allanis
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                                    Oh @mrjj got there first. :P

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                                    • A Annabelle

                                      @Sunfluxgames said in Qt Programming Language:

                                      @Annabelle You wouldn't need shortcuts to create anything.

                                      In notepad++ you would create a class that can create dynamic widgets with you passing arguments for size and name in the function. All the designer lets us do is make it easier to drag and drop widgets into place while building code for us.

                                      In your case you going to build your application through C++ and .h files.

                                      I'm still a bit confused, because I want to try the Qt Designer, but I seem to be left in the dust as to how I would have access to the command to create, add, delete, and show/hide widgets without keyboard shortcuts. Since I have 0% vision, this is why I use a screenreader and keyboard shortcuts. I wonder if any of the Qt Creator administrators could help with making the program more screenreader friendly. Image-based icons are a screenreader's weak point. text-based icons and menus with detailed descriptions are what is accessible to both sighted and blind individuals alike.

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                                      ambershark
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                                      @Annabelle There's very little chance of you being able to use the designer without sight. You absolutely have to use a mouse.

                                      However you do not need the designer to make user interfaces. You just code them like I showed you. No designer required, all can be done with your editor of choice, i.e. Notepad++.

                                      So really you just need to learn Qt by reading documentation and or books with your reader. Then you can literally just write the code, no vision required other than having someone check your layouts and such to make sure things looks good.

                                      My L-GPL'd C++ Logger github.com/ambershark-mike/sharklog

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                                      • SGaistS SGaist

                                        That's where signals and slots comes into play. For each control proposing a choice you will have a slot that will modify your UI based on the state/choice of the control that was just modified.

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                                        @SGaist said in Qt Programming Language:

                                        That's where signals and slots comes into play. For each control proposing a choice you will have a slot that will modify your UI based on the state/choice of the control that was just modified.

                                        So for example, connecting a push button to a signal would look like:

                                            signalMapper = new 
                                        QSignalMapper
                                        (this);
                                            signalMapper->setMapping(BackButton, 
                                        QString
                                        ("Step 1.txt"));
                                            signalMapper->setMapping(NextButton, 
                                        QString
                                        ("Step 3.txt"));
                                            signalMapper->setMapping(CancelButton, 
                                        QString
                                        ("Cancel"));
                                        
                                            connect(BackButton, &
                                        QPushButton::
                                        clicked,
                                                signalMapper, &
                                        QSignalMapper::
                                        map);
                                            connect(NextButton, &
                                        QPushButton::
                                        clicked,
                                                signalMapper, &
                                        QSignalMapper::
                                        map);
                                            connect(CancelButton, &
                                        QPushButton::
                                        clicked,
                                                signalMapper, &
                                        QSignalMapper::
                                        map);
                                        
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                                        • SGaistS SGaist

                                          That's where signals and slots comes into play. For each control proposing a choice you will have a slot that will modify your UI based on the state/choice of the control that was just modified.

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                                          @SGaist said in Qt Programming Language:

                                          That's where signals and slots comes into play. For each control proposing a choice you will have a slot that will modify your UI based on the state/choice of the control that was just modified.

                                          Specifically, when I talk about filling in gender-specific words in the finished text, for example, when "Female" is selected, the appropriate gender-specific pronouns (she, her, hers, herself) are automatically printed in the place which would say "Gender pronoun" if neither radio button is selected. Same goes for gender nouns (man, woman, boy, girl).

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