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  • H Harry123

    I'm under Windows, and I add several QPushButtons to a QMessageBox. A shortcut key is specified by an ampersand before the preferred character in each text.

    When the message box is initially displayed, the shortcut keys of all buttons are not marked by an underline, but :

    1. The button does execute if I type the shortcut key in spite of the missing underline.
    2. If I press the Alt key, the shortcut underline appears on all buttons and stays displayed after I release the Alt key.

    This lack of an initial visual cue may cause the end-user to assume that shortcuts were not provided.

    Is there something I should do to force the display of the shortcut underlines when the message box is initially displayed ?

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    Harry123
    wrote on last edited by Harry123
    #8

    This is definitely a Qt design decision to by default paint buttons without shortcut underlines.

    I have searched in the sources and found that QWindowsStyle::eventFilter() in qwindowsstyle.cpp does check for Qt::Key_Alt and then repaints all children, all this after calling an internal function named seenAlt().

    As it skips all QWidgets having the styleHint of QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut, it seems like this is what is missing from my QPushButtons.

    How do I add this styleHint to my buttons when creating them ?

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      mrjj
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      #9

      @Harry123 said:
      aha. that is good digging around.
      QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut seems to belong to the style used by the application.

      Im really not sure how to set for a buttons as such. Normally you use a QStyle
      in paintEvent for a custom button/widget.

      I guess one would have to provide a custom QStyle that somehow altered
      this setting.
      http://doc.qt.io/qt-5.5/qapplication.html#setStyle

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      • mrjjM mrjj

        @Harry123 said:
        aha. that is good digging around.
        QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut seems to belong to the style used by the application.

        Im really not sure how to set for a buttons as such. Normally you use a QStyle
        in paintEvent for a custom button/widget.

        I guess one would have to provide a custom QStyle that somehow altered
        this setting.
        http://doc.qt.io/qt-5.5/qapplication.html#setStyle

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        kshegunov
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        @Harry123
        Try the qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic function.

        Kind regards.

        Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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        • kshegunovK kshegunov

          @Harry123
          Try the qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic function.

          Kind regards.

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          Harry123
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @kshegunov

          qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic is not found by the linker.
          In which library is it supposed to be ?
          I have both Qt5Gui and Qt5Core in the link.

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          • H Harry123

            @kshegunov

            qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic is not found by the linker.
            In which library is it supposed to be ?
            I have both Qt5Gui and Qt5Core in the link.

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            kshegunov
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            wrote on last edited by kshegunov
            #12

            @Harry123
            My guess would be in the gui module, but I have never used it so I'm not 100% sure. I checked and on my 5.6 build I found it in libQt5Gui.so:

            0000000000138d02 T _Z29qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonicb
            

            So, the answer is: it is located in the gui module.

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            • kshegunovK kshegunov

              @Harry123
              My guess would be in the gui module, but I have never used it so I'm not 100% sure. I checked and on my 5.6 build I found it in libQt5Gui.so:

              0000000000138d02 T _Z29qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonicb
              

              So, the answer is: it is located in the gui module.

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              Harry123
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @kshegunov

              Unfortunately it seems to be missing from the Windows build.

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              • H Harry123

                @kshegunov

                Unfortunately it seems to be missing from the Windows build.

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                kshegunov
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                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                @Harry123
                Your claim seemed somewhat dubious, so even if I don't actively develop on windows I've loaded the gui module and searched through it with the dependency walker. The symbol is there (Qt 5.5.1 installed with Qt maintenance tool), see the screenshot, and it is exported.
                qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic
                I don't know what error exactly you're getting but you should be able to use the function if declared properly (as mentioned in the documentation I sourced in my previous post).

                Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                • kshegunovK kshegunov

                  @Harry123
                  Your claim seemed somewhat dubious, so even if I don't actively develop on windows I've loaded the gui module and searched through it with the dependency walker. The symbol is there (Qt 5.5.1 installed with Qt maintenance tool), see the screenshot, and it is exported.
                  qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic
                  I don't know what error exactly you're getting but you should be able to use the function if declared properly (as mentioned in the documentation I sourced in my previous post).

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                  Harry123
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  @kshegunov

                  Sorry, my claim was more than dubious - unfortunately I put the call in a section of extern "C".
                  Stupid mistake, but this is a complicated body of code.

                  Results: calling qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic with the parameters of either true or false did not restore the underlines.

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                  • H Harry123

                    @kshegunov

                    Sorry, my claim was more than dubious - unfortunately I put the call in a section of extern "C".
                    Stupid mistake, but this is a complicated body of code.

                    Results: calling qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic with the parameters of either true or false did not restore the underlines.

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                    kshegunov
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                    @Harry123

                    Results: calling qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic with the parameters of either true or false did not restore the underlines.

                    That's unfortunate. Another thing you could try is to set a global proxy style for your application and manually force the QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut flag.

                    Kind regards.

                    Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                    • kshegunovK kshegunov

                      @Harry123

                      Results: calling qt_set_sequence_auto_mnemonic with the parameters of either true or false did not restore the underlines.

                      That's unfortunate. Another thing you could try is to set a global proxy style for your application and manually force the QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut flag.

                      Kind regards.

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                      Harry123
                      wrote on last edited by Harry123
                      #17

                      @kshegunov

                      This works. I modified the example in the link with :

                          if (hint == QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut)
                              return 1;
                      

                      I now have underlines. Much better than faking an Alt key and it works for all future dialogs.

                      Very many thanks.

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                      • H Harry123

                        @kshegunov

                        This works. I modified the example in the link with :

                            if (hint == QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut)
                                return 1;
                        

                        I now have underlines. Much better than faking an Alt key and it works for all future dialogs.

                        Very many thanks.

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                        kshegunov
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        @Harry123

                        faking an Alt key

                        Well, this could also have unforeseeable side effects as well (if for example some widget has a shortcut bound to that key), so it's a bit hackish.

                        Very many thanks.

                        You're most welcome.

                        Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                        • kshegunovK kshegunov

                          @Harry123

                          faking an Alt key

                          Well, this could also have unforeseeable side effects as well (if for example some widget has a shortcut bound to that key), so it's a bit hackish.

                          Very many thanks.

                          You're most welcome.

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                          Harry123
                          wrote on last edited by Harry123
                          #19

                          @kshegunov

                          The only question that is left, is why isn't QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut the default .

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                          • H Harry123

                            @kshegunov

                            The only question that is left, is why isn't QStyle::SH_UnderlineShortcut the default .

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                            kshegunov
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            @Harry123
                            I'd say the default is determined by the OS settings, and Qt simply wouldn't presume to override it. That'd explain why when you change the settings systemwide the behavior changes accordingly.

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                            • kshegunovK kshegunov

                              @Harry123
                              I'd say the default is determined by the OS settings, and Qt simply wouldn't presume to override it. That'd explain why when you change the settings systemwide the behavior changes accordingly.

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                              Harry123
                              wrote on last edited by Harry123
                              #21

                              @kshegunov

                              I don't think this is a system default, since Qt paints its buttons itself and does not use native widgets.
                              I say this because if I look into a Qt dialog using Spy++, it has no children, so no native objects.
                              The reason for this design decision is probably that there was no other way to assure identical functionality across all platforms.

                              Therefore this is a Qt default which in my opinion is badly chosen, since the Windows default is just the opposite - to always underline button shortcuts in dialogs.

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                                mrjj
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                my windows 7 do not have underscore as default.
                                only when i press alt.
                                That goes for buttons and menus.
                                Except some common file open dialog it seems :)

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                                • H Harry123

                                  @kshegunov

                                  I don't think this is a system default, since Qt paints its buttons itself and does not use native widgets.
                                  I say this because if I look into a Qt dialog using Spy++, it has no children, so no native objects.
                                  The reason for this design decision is probably that there was no other way to assure identical functionality across all platforms.

                                  Therefore this is a Qt default which in my opinion is badly chosen, since the Windows default is just the opposite - to always underline button shortcuts in dialogs.

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                                  kshegunov
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                                  wrote on last edited by kshegunov
                                  #23

                                  @Harry123

                                  I don't think this is a system default, since Qt paints its buttons itself and does not use native widgets.

                                  Which wouldn't stop it to honor the default system behavior, would it?

                                  As @mrjj noted:

                                  my windows 7 do not have underscore as default.

                                  Which had been my experience as well.

                                  The reason for this design decision is probably that there was no other way to assure identical functionality across all platforms.

                                  This design decision, if memory serves me, happened some time when Qt 4 was developed (which should be about 10 years ago) and it was mostly done because using native handles is costly as hell, and UIs tend to just eat up resources if you have a handle for each tiny thing. And it's been working just fine, if I may add.

                                  Kind regards.

                                  Read and abide by the Qt Code of Conduct

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                                  • H Harry123

                                    I'm under Windows, and I add several QPushButtons to a QMessageBox. A shortcut key is specified by an ampersand before the preferred character in each text.

                                    When the message box is initially displayed, the shortcut keys of all buttons are not marked by an underline, but :

                                    1. The button does execute if I type the shortcut key in spite of the missing underline.
                                    2. If I press the Alt key, the shortcut underline appears on all buttons and stays displayed after I release the Alt key.

                                    This lack of an initial visual cue may cause the end-user to assume that shortcuts were not provided.

                                    Is there something I should do to force the display of the shortcut underlines when the message box is initially displayed ?

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                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @Harry123
                                    I did it putting this in main.cpp and that's all folks ;-)

                                    QApplication a(argc, argv);
                                    a.setStyle("fusion");
                                    
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