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Can't have application menu bar in english on OSX french

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  • SGaistS Offline
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    SGaist
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    Hi and welcome to devnet,

    The menu bar is a special case in OS X. Take a look here, it describes how to handle the menu bar translation.

    Hope it helps

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      nelbok
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      #3

      Thanks SGaist,

      I have tested your link, but it doesn't work. So i tested other things and i found something strange.
      With QtWidgets, the application menu bar is translated nice. I don't have the problem.
      But with QML, i have the problem.

      So i have the problem only with QML. Actually, i have tested on :

      • Mountain Lion: Qt 5.5.1 and xcode 5.1.1
      • Mavericks: Qt 5.5.1 and xcode 5.1.1

      There are a special thing to do with QML ?

      Regards,

      nelbok

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        #4

        Can you share a minimal sample project on e.g. github that shows that behavior ?

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        • SGaistS SGaist

          Can you share a minimal sample project on e.g. github that shows that behavior ?

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          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          Sorry for the wait.

          Here two examples :

          • one with Qt Widgets where all work well : https://github.com/nelbok/SRPTest/tree/master/widgetsMenuBar
          • one with Qt Quick where i can't have English on OSX French : https://github.com/nelbok/SRPTest/tree/master/quickMenuBar

          For the moment, i have a work around. I create a english translation to manually set the correct values.
          I have getted the source of translations module with the Qt installer to have the key translations...

          <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
          <!DOCTYPE TS>
          <TS version="2.1" language="en">
          <context>
              <name>MAC_APPLICATION_MENU</name>
              <message>
                  <source>Services</source>
                  <translation>Services</translation>
              </message>
              <message>
                  <source>Hide %1</source>
                  <translation>Hide %1</translation>
              </message>
              <message>
                  <source>Hide Others</source>
                  <translation>Hide Others</translation>
              </message>
              <message>
                  <source>Show All</source>
                  <translation>Show All</translation>
              </message>
              <message>
                  <source>Preferences...</source>
                  <translation>Preferences...</translation>
              </message>
              <message>
                  <source>Quit %1</source>
                  <translation>Quit %1</translation>
              </message>
              <message>
                  <source>About %1</source>
                  <translation>About %1</translation>
              </message>
          </context>
          </TS>
          

          Regards,

          nelbok

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            SGaist
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            wrote on last edited by SGaist
            #6

            Since my system is in english I've tested both applications loading the german translation file and both worked correctly but I have Qt version that is more recent than you.

            Can you check again with the 5.6 Beta ?

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            • SGaistS SGaist

              Since my system is in english I've tested both applications loading the german translation file and both worked correctly but I have Qt version that is more recent than you.

              Can you check again with the 5.6 Beta ?

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              nelbok
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              #7

              Hello,

              After downloaded and installed qt-opensource-mac-x64-clang-5.6.0-beta.dmg.
              On my OSX french and for the QML project, it does not work, i have the application menu bar in french and not in english.

              Also, when i run the two project, they say that they can't load qt_en in the output log.

              Regards,

              nelbok

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                Does it also fail if you change qt_en by qt_de ?

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                • SGaistS SGaist

                  Does it also fail if you change qt_en by qt_de ?

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                  nelbok
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                  #9

                  When i change lang to de, with Qt 5.5.1 or 5.6, it works fine.

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                    #10

                    So it seems that for some reason there's something funky with the english translation going on...

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                      #11

                      I just realized, Qt is already written in english so it's pretty likely that the qt_en.qm file is empty. So if you need english translation of your non-english written application, you have to provide the english translation of your application. Personally, I'd recommend writing your application in english and provide translations for the other languages.

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                      • SGaistS SGaist

                        I just realized, Qt is already written in english so it's pretty likely that the qt_en.qm file is empty. So if you need english translation of your non-english written application, you have to provide the english translation of your application. Personally, I'd recommend writing your application in english and provide translations for the other languages.

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                        #12

                        Hello,

                        That not the problem here.
                        If i understand correctly, the OSX Application Menu is translated by Qt, not my application.
                        The problem occurs only with QtQuick and on a OSX no-english.

                        So why i must do give a translated file created by me for QtQuick and not for QtWidgets ? (And not the translated files qt)

                        Regards,

                        nelbok

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